Rokka no Yuusha

I noticed we don't have a thread for this.

So all of the Braves finally got together all... seven of them?

I hope it's Flemy because it be a nice twist after Adlet got so adamant in defending her based on nothing but his gut's feeling.

Also, could he please shut up about being the strongest man in the world? It got rather annoying by now.

Oh, good, I was thinking I'd have to start the thread

Definitely not Hans, Chamo, or Maura— They're not really characters at this point. Probably not Goldov, for similar reasons. Only going to be Adlet if the fake isn't aware of their status. I don't think they'd pull "Flemy is actually evil" twice. So, most likely Nashetania

Also, Nashetania has been shady as fuck from day one, and we got a big reminder of that this episode when she freaked out over the barrier controls. I mean, yeah, they were in a bad situation, but something was not right there.

Probably not the only one to bring this up, but it's noticeably odd how nobody in this universe seems to care enough to check whether a Crest is fabricated or not.

Especially evident with the recent drama concerning Flemy and basic counting.

I feel like they cut out a lot connective tissue here- like, how did Chamo know about Flemy? And, for that matter, how did Goldov know? And then they dismissed what I thought was the most reasonable answer to the whole seventh Brave thing- a seventh was chosen to counteract Flemy's shenanigans- without really giving a reason why it wouldn't work.

None of those things defy explanation, but we sure didn't get an explanation for them.

But, yeah, I'm calling that there isn't actually a fake, and something screwy is going on with that. If there is a fake, Hans feels like the most obvious candidate, which is why I'm hoping that's not it. In any case, in the short term they're probably just not going find a way of figuring it out and table the issue for now until we get to know them all a little better.

It really makes me wonder how they plan on doing the anime adaption in 12 episodes. The first volume in the LN series can cover who the seventh is, but there's not enough content to stretch it out for 12 episodes. But if we adapt more than one volume, we'll get into how there's an eighth and finding out who it is, and there's not enough episodes to cover the (current) reveal for that one (not to mention the anime would fail as an advertisement for the LN series if they reveal whodunit). With not a particularly good projection in popularity for a second season, I have a feeling many anime-only watchers will be left hanging.

Also, Hylarn, you're correct in more ways than one.

edited 26th Jul '15 3:44:46 AM by Chrono

Could be a split-cour. It's not uncommon for them to not be announced until the first cour has finished airing

Ummm... I confused about something.

Let me get this straight. Flemy was killing off potential Braves so that the weaker ones would get chosen. Or was she killing Braves so that she could've been chosen as one(highly unlikely, since only Braves can kill other Braves)? And if it panned out the way she intended, she would've been their best bet against the Demon God. DG must've really ticked her off that badly for her to resort to such an option...

Adelt, you're cool, and you're one of the more stable Braves, but please stop declaring yourself the strongest like it's going out of style.

If we take Flemy's word for it, she was killing potential Braves because she wants the Demon God to win. Of course that's probably bullshit, which just leaves us not knowing why she's been killing people.

Or it could be that Flemy really was part of a cult or raised to worship the Great Demon or did a bargain with him, thus she worked for him killing potential Braves. Then when he was revived and the Braves were being chosen he showed his true colors and did something bad enough for Flemy to want to kill him enough to become a Brave.

I doubt that. Mostly because it's totally boring and has no meaning to the plot. I'm guessing Flamie's motivations have something to do with knowing ahead of time that there was a traitor, which is of course also why she doesn't trust anyone enough to tell them what she knows. She'd rather fight alone than with an untrustworthy ally. That's just the most obvious answer. Although off the top of my head I can't remember how surprised she acted just now.

Honestly, Adelt seems the most likely traitor to me. They keep pointing out how no one knows him or expected him to be chosen, and his fighting style stands out as something distinct from what you'd expect from "the strongest man in the world". If so, he probably doesn't know though.

Flamie is supposedly a Saint of gunpowder, except nobody ever heard of such a Saint, and the Fiends seem to be inteligent and capable of mimicing humans. Hmmm...

Alternatively, it might be possible she was like, kidnapped as a child and raised by fiends to be their agent in the human realms.

Honestly I just want it to be Flamie because I think it'd be a nice twist. Usually when the hero decides to trust some shady character despite warnings of his teammates based on nothing but his gut feeling telling him they can be trusted, they are proven right, so it'd be nice if Adelt intuition just proved totally off base.

The thing is, if she's supposed to be a secret agent working for the bad guys to betray them then she's fricking bad at it. Literally everything she's done so far has been working against the goal of getting them to trust her (as I said, it's more like she's paranoid of being betrayed by them). If the demons are betting on her, then they definitely picked the wrong horse.

Which is why I think it's a narratively pointless choice.

They didn't exactly make a bad choice. Flemy did kill about four or five potential and strong Saints. She could be their agent up until he awakened and did whatever he did to make Flemy hate him with a great passion.

The killing of potential Braves lasted only until the demon awakening, ever since Flemy has been acting on her own, killing monsters and hasn't targeted the other Braves. She could have killed Adlet if that was still her objective. It seems like she just refuses to play along with the others since she rightly believes the other Braves would be after her head for playing on the other team until now and targeting them all.

Adlet is kinda unlikely to be a fake, we did see the moment he was chosen and the mark appeared on him.

That doesn't explain why she's refusing to explain her situation to them though. Even if she thinks they would never trust her, she has nothing to lose by telling them her story, especially after she's already been outed as the Brave-slayer yet still forced into their group. Her behavior simply makes no sense at all as a mole.

Adlet would obviously be unaware of being the mole, if he is. And since we haven't seen anyone else get the mark, we don't know if that scene is representative. Actually, a lot of people noted in the first episode that it kind looked like he was being reached out to by demonic tentacles rather than saintly flowers.

edited 26th Jul '15 4:29:43 PM by Clarste

Well, we saw a fiend have a transform ability so....that's probably it.

Either that or it will be something goofy like 1 died, a new one was chosen and then they came back or something so none of the seven are actually evil.

Adlet: I must fight the Fiends!

Hans: Nyo, Adlet. You are the Fiends.

And then Adlet was No.7

But who was Goldof???

Am I the only one suspecting Chamot at this point? Even given that she's fought Flamie at some point she's a little too bloodthirsty for my comfort.

If its Maura I will be very upset. Maura is cool.

I'm pretty sure it has to be Adlet, for the meta-reason that anyone else being the mole wouldn't be very interesting. The Creepy Child and hair-covering-his-eyes-guy and half-demon girl are all too obvious, and the remaining three seem equally not guilty, so you could pretty much arbitrarily make any of them the mole.

Adlet is the only Brave that none of the others recognize, and he apparently lived in isolation for most of his life. He calls himself the strongest man in the world, but fights like a rogue, with bombs and poison and stuff. He probably doesn't know that he's the mole, but there's something very suspicious about him.

They're ignoring the obvious possibility that someone snuck in and out while Adlet was fighting the golems

Character wise, I do mostly like the new characters, even if Hans and Chamo have annoying speech patterns. Maura and Hans talk sense, and Chamo is amusingly sociopathic

edited 1st Aug '15 5:32:10 PM by Hylarn

The big flaw in Hans' reasoning is that the audience knows damn well that Adlet's telling the truth, unless there's some weird split personality stuff going on. Which I suppose I can't rule out.

But, it seems somebody (possibly with some kind of invisibility power) snuck in and activated the barrier after Adlet open the door. This would suggest Chamo, since she's the only one without an alibi at that time. But it also opens the possibility that it's not any of them- the barrier was activated by somebody else, who's still lurking around somewhere.

I think this is definitely one of those situations where audience knowledge CAN'T be used as proof of a character's innocence. XD

Watch as next episode they find a hidden door or something.

But if we think about it, it can't be Nashetania, Godolv or Flamie since they were together at the time, so the other two would notice if one of them went somewhere else. That leaves Adelt and the other three.

And similar logic eliminates Maura and Hans.