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Folt Warlock Necromancer from Hollow Bastion! >=D Since: Jun, 2010
Warlock Necromancer
#2226: Aug 20th 2015 at 11:36:09 AM

[up] Don't say we didn't warn you.

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Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#2227: Aug 20th 2015 at 11:42:08 AM

It's Game FAQs, what do you expect? It's a step up from /v/.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
Balmung Since: Oct, 2011
#2228: Aug 20th 2015 at 11:43:35 AM

...and the Dragons from Po R/RD go out of control if they enter battle because they are naturally inclined towards Chaos in their Dragon forms
Though, as I recall, that applies to all transformed Laguz, with the dragon tribes just having it worst.

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#2229: Aug 20th 2015 at 11:45:58 AM

[up]Plus, their isolationism was meant to keep at least one race out of any continent spanning war, to keep the goddess sealed. Makes a lot of sense, until it doesn't and then they side with the goddess because we needed another level near the endgame.

Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
Mizerous Takat Empress from Outworld Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: Brewing the love potion
Takat Empress
#2230: Aug 20th 2015 at 11:55:01 AM

I don't hate the history it's just why did the reuse that one level map in Awakening during the empire arc...

Mileena Madness
RangerJackWalker Since: Sep, 2010
#2231: Aug 20th 2015 at 1:26:28 PM

That's a lot of backstory and purpose given to 3 characters who do absolutely nothing in the main story...

Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#2232: Aug 20th 2015 at 1:37:46 PM

Oh, you would complain no matter what, why do you bother?

RangerJackWalker Since: Sep, 2010
#2233: Aug 20th 2015 at 1:48:26 PM

If you have nothing to contribute other than complain on other people's complaints, then don't bother posting.

edited 20th Aug '15 1:50:12 PM by RangerJackWalker

Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#2234: Aug 20th 2015 at 2:34:38 PM

Yeah, you have to be trolling, because otherwise I just don't get you...

Anyway, I still think we should have seen more Awakening kids in the DLC, rather than just the ones that won the popularity contest. Anyway, is there more stuff left to come? This is neat and all that, but doesn't compare just yet with The Future Past.

randomdude4 Since: May, 2011
#2235: Aug 20th 2015 at 2:41:52 PM

I'm actually kinda with both of you on this one.

Frankly I would've left the Awakening kids in Awakening, allowing for Fates to be its own game separate of Awakening. At this point it really just does feel like pandering towards the (well-deserved) popularity of Awakening, which is one of the reasons I don't plan on getting Fates. Plus it kinda feels like Fates overrides some support pairing choices in Awakening through their appearances here.

On the other hand, once they did decide to include the Awakening kids they should've just had them all for the DLC. It was a poor choice to just have the winners of the popularity contest, and many people are now seeing through their reasoning.

"Can't make an omelette without breaking some children." -Bur
Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#2236: Aug 20th 2015 at 2:46:23 PM

Keep in mind that Gaius, Cordelia and Tharja were also popularity contest winners, and, while Saylla is an interesting take on the issue, and Matoi is quite neat when mothered by Luna/Severa, Grey being Gaius just because is, well, eeh, yeah.

randomdude4 Since: May, 2011
#2237: Aug 20th 2015 at 2:57:06 PM

I thought it was implied - if not outright said - that those three were reincarnations of their Awakening counterparts. If that's true, then it's basically the same thing. Plus it adds some Squick to consider that Severa can potentially be the mother of her own mother.

"Can't make an omelette without breaking some children." -Bur
Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#2238: Aug 20th 2015 at 3:03:24 PM

Nah, the Awakening incarnations are the reincarnations, it seems. Awakening happens after every other game, Fates happens before every other game.

RangerJackWalker Since: Sep, 2010
#2239: Aug 20th 2015 at 3:23:33 PM

Past and future don't mean anything when we're talking about interdimensional travel. Saying that Fates takes placed before very other game is meaningless.

Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#2240: Aug 20th 2015 at 3:36:43 PM

Except it is stated in the game.

Also, Awakening also involved interdimensional travel, yet the kids came from the future. Stop being pedantic will you?

Demonfly birdie fairy Since: Jul, 2012
birdie fairy
#2241: Aug 20th 2015 at 3:58:30 PM

What's the point in calling something a prequel when it affects absolutely nothing in the games supposedly following it?

Even now, with the backstory out of the way, there doesn't appear to be anything to suggest that Fates wouldn't be better off as its own universe instead of making the whole series look more convoluted than it needs to be.

edited 20th Aug '15 3:59:34 PM by Demonfly

"Tell them to shut up and have some faith in me." - dead flashback guy
IceAnt573 Forever not amused. Since: May, 2015
Forever not amused.
#2242: Aug 20th 2015 at 3:58:32 PM

Syalla is the only implied reincarnation. Grey and Matoi do not reference anything involving any other life they may have.

Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#2243: Aug 20th 2015 at 4:08:05 PM

Meh, I don't see convulsion, I see events having a degree of relation, but not much.

Just like whatever the Maya were doing didn't really affect the medieval Europeans or the feudal Japanese, yet it happens in the same world over vague millenia, and all in all, there are common themes and a point in the past where all were the same.

MeetTheNewBoss I'm Ruthless. from The Same As The Old Boss Since: May, 2015 Relationship Status: Love is for the living, Sal
I'm Ruthless.
#2244: Aug 20th 2015 at 4:53:23 PM

I will talk like God exists, but interpret that as "fate" if you want. God is a better writer than any human will be. History is internally consistent, it's just that us humans aren't able to completely understand it because we're only left with clues of what happened. Medieval Europe and medieval Japan can both exist without contradit each other because this a world that makes sense. Everything happens in a way that is internally consistent, and everything is caused by another thing, through a logical chain of events. There is no time travel, no magic, no inconsistent characterization, no DEM. Everything happens the way should be.

I doubt IS writers are 1% of reaching the consistency that Real Life have.

edited 20th Aug '15 4:55:55 PM by MeetTheNewBoss

You claim that God is opressing us, but I see you opressing others without needing a God.
Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#2245: Aug 20th 2015 at 4:55:42 PM

That is a quite limited view of the universe down there, if you ask me.

OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#2246: Aug 20th 2015 at 4:56:48 PM

[up]x6 Actually it's conflicting more than anything. Some dialogue suggests the past, others suggest another world. Including Invisible History supporting the Latter.

The most likely conclusion is Alternate Timeline because the future the kids came from still exists as its own world, and all the dragons disappeared save for two and the Astral Dragons in Fates.

edited 20th Aug '15 5:13:51 PM by OmegaRadiance

Every accusation by the GOP is ALWAYS a confession.
Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#2247: Aug 20th 2015 at 5:00:21 PM

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Yeah, cause-effect is quite constant, the way laws of physics work. However, when we don't know the cause for something, we tend to make up bullshit, and wage war when others make up different bullshit trying to explain what caused something. Would you call that inconsistent writting or what?

OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#2248: Aug 20th 2015 at 6:22:31 PM

So this person is translating Invisible History currently.

Turns out Hydra's blood does last a bit. Though they'll have it for a few years at most. Most likely permanent in the case of child units since it's been over a decade since they got it.

Every accusation by the GOP is ALWAYS a confession.
KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#2249: Aug 20th 2015 at 9:20:59 PM

If the world makes sense, then I shall be appropriately horrified.

I'm half-joking, I think.

edited 20th Aug '15 9:21:23 PM by KarkatTheDalek

Oh God! Natural light!
Chadaman99 Hmmm Mmmm Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
Hmmm Mmmm
#2250: Aug 20th 2015 at 10:31:48 PM

A part of me is happy that Hoshido is the bad route.

edited 20th Aug '15 10:32:01 PM by Chadaman99

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