Terms, their meanings history and implications. (The Semantics thread)

Well, the difference there is that one is recommending genocide and the other is recommending a good old fashioned revolution.

And for a group who has less power to carry out genocide it would also take a revolution.

And sometimes there might not be much difference between the two.

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What's the difference between "making a mistake that you regret" and "making a conscious choice and accepting the consequences?" If any? "Mistake" implies that what you did wasn't what you meant to do, right? So if someone said they made the "mistake" of (for example) cheating on someone with someone else, are they really telling the truth, or just lying to themselves because cheating on someone is a conscious choice?

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edited 24th Oct '15 10:12:31 PM by Nettacki

A lot of mistakes are conscious choices. Hindsight is a thing that exists. Otherwise there'd be no such thing as tactical or strategical mistakes.

Accepting the consequences is irrelevant, since you can do that whether you did something deliberately or by accident.

The key factor is probably regret, or that you'd do it differently if you could get a do-over.

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What is a 'whore', 'slut' or 'skank' anyway...?

A whore is someone who earns money doing what you only wish you were doing, a slut is someone more successful with the opposite gender (usually) than you, and a skank is someone who dresses in a way you don't dare to even if you want to. I'm not entirely sure on the last one, though.

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Actually all three terms used to refer to being sloppy, messy, lazy, and uncouth...

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"A whore is someone who earns money doing what you only wish you were doing"

Is that not a stripper, prostitute, or porn actor/actress?

But yes, I get your point.

If it's about "being sloppy, messy, lazy, and uncouth" in a sexual manner, I personally believe using those words would get the point across much better. Oh, how about 'bimbo'?

edited 25th Oct '15 2:27:49 AM by hellomoto

No, it's more about, like, not taking proper care of your house, wearing smelly underwear, etc.

Being a slob.

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Ah, I now noticed the phrase "used to". The terms have since taken on sexual meanings.

You hit the right one in the middle. It's not the only meaning, but the one I was referring to.

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"Whore" in the modern vernacular is used as a synonym for a prostitute.

It's also used as an insult, but the insult is derived from that usage. It's intended to demean a woman by implying that she is a prostitute. If a popular girl is called a "whore", the implication is that she bought her popularity with sex. If a game developer is called a "whore", the implication is that she bought her success with sex. If a high-ranking businesswoman is called a "whore", the implication is that she slept her way to the top.

As an insult, it draws power from several toxic ideas including

• A woman can only be powerful or successful by gaining favor of men, never on her own merits.
• Women are inherently deceitful and dishonest creatures who use sexuality to manipulate and control others.
• Female sexuality is inherently shameful and/or wicked.

Etc.

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You don't need to have sex at all to win the qualifier that way; it's enough that you (appear to) use your sex appeal as leverage.

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There's also the use for excess use of something, in various ways, like Whoring, or being a camwhore (taking a lot of pictures of yourself, or hogging the camera's attention whoever's holding it).

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I think whore actually used to mean 'girl', etymologically speaking

So the worst thing you can call a girl is a girl?

I find that hilarious.

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No, you can also call her a republican.

As far as I know, that's a possible origin of the word, but as always when it comes to words that old, it's not certain, and we don't always know the exact connotations the words had back then.

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Afraid not. For all the different spellings, it's meant prostitute for roughly a thousand years (dating back to Old Norse, where it first shows up).

It's just one of those really rare cases where linguistic drift never happened.

edited 26th Oct '15 9:24:40 AM by TotemicHero

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So...what was the English term for just a regular girl, then?

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Going by the same website, the original word was in fact maiden.

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Oh. I always thought that term referred to girls of nobility.

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Virginity actually. Maidenhead used to be what they called the hymen.

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