Tangled: the Series

I just don't get it. am allowed to still feel sympathy for him. come on their are more people who do sympathize with him though I've seen the posts. my autism makes it hard to let this go. i want to feel what i want to feel cant I. and yes its decently but i still disagree with it and i don''t think it's right when as i said their are more people who do feel for him

edited 23rd Nov '17 5:15:51 PM by anyatt

It would be wrong to remove the post just because one disagrees with it, and YMMV isn't a popularity contest either: as long as the entry describes a notable existing reaction in the fandom - and it does, even if it's not a prevailing one - then it's fine.

And I can understand the other unintentionally unsympathetic that are on their just not this one did you read the tumblr posts I posted. here are a few more https://sparkycanteven.tumblr.com/post/167680690506/ugggh?is_related_post=1

http://pinkwitchfairy.tumblr.com/post/167794790539/tangledbea-tangledgal-yknow-varian-even-if

but i know i'm not the only one who'd disagree the other tumblr posts

The fact that some people reacted differently doesn't matter. Again, it's not a popularity contest.

One of the primary reasons YMMV can have contradictory entries is because different parts of the fandom react in different ways, and - if they're reactions that are reasonably shared among parts of the base, even if not the most major reaction - they're all worth noting.

We mainly want to be removing stuff that's clearly one person going on a rant to satisfy their fringe opinion, or things like people outright misunderstanding the source material in order to get to their conclusion. It's definitely a case by case thing, but in this case I don't see anything wrong with the entry - even if I don't completely agree with it.

I'd even argue we're supposed to be unsure whether Varien is justified or not. He's on the cusp of becoming a villain, after all.

edited 23rd Nov '17 5:30:44 PM by KnownUnknown

OK JUST TELL ME I'm ALLOWED To Feel Sympathy for him cause it just feel like it's saying I"M NOT I don't want all that Crying to be for nothing

Of course you are. Other people not feeling sympathetic doesn't mean you shouldn't. It just means they didn't.

YMMV isn't a trope page. It's not telling us what a character is supposed to be or how we're supposed to think of them. It's just gauging reactions.

edited 23rd Nov '17 5:32:15 PM by KnownUnknown

OK by the way I wasn't trying to make it a popularity contest I just don't know the Right way to Argue this are make my Opinions Valid. it's something i Struggle with. and I don't want what I feel to Disappear. I sometimes feel that My Opinions don't Matter because other people are better at arguing them

Don't sweat it. That kind of dilemma hits YMMV pretty often.

Your opinion matters. Never feel like your opinion is diminished because it's not shared by others. The beauty of a forum is being a glorious melting pot of that sort of thing.

Thank You. I think I needed that.

After the most recent episode, I'm starting to think this show was always meant to be a very plot heavy series, and they were just lulling us into a false sense of security earlier.

Even the breather episodes now introduce running plotlines.

Well that was unexpected. There were more Wham moments in those two episodes than in the rest of the season combined.

Honestly I feel bad for Varian. I mean, at least Rapunzel, instead of sulking in her room should have rushed to see how he was right after ensuring her parents were safe and the storm had ended. Even if it was just to apologize for being too late - which she would have been anyway if she had ran to help him.

I'm kind of expecting the next episode to start with the reveal that she tried looking for him right away, but nobody could find him - since the episode is about looking for him. It would explain why Rapunzel didn't go help him right after the blizzard - I mean, besides the mild PTSD we see her going through in Painter's Block.

edited 25th Nov '17 3:22:03 PM by KnownUnknown

.... suddenly sees a ton of Tangled The Series posts on social media.

Okay. What happened this time??

2 (or 3) episodes, some followup on the thorns, a Face–Heel Turn, and Rapunzel having to deal with The Chains of Commanding. Oh and there is some Evil Sorcerer who wants nothing more than the complete and utter destruction of Corona.

edited 26th Nov '17 11:59:52 AM by MorningStar1337

After these last few episodes, I am really liking the world building-adding in more magic and mystery, plus some history and antagonists helps with the 'lived in' feel of the world. I am also interested in seeing more of Xavier, and finding out precisely how he gained all his knowledge, and his books.

Depending on how far "Varian turns villainous" goes, I'd like to see an episode with him and Red & Angry meeting: a pair of kids on a bad path who became are now leading good-ish lives thaks to our heroes, versus a good kid who went bad out of blaming our heroes for his troubles.

Thanks to these past 2-3 episodes, this show is getting better and better and I'm glad to have stuck with it - even if I have enough criticisms with it that I could lob at it with a catapult; then again, it was clear this show was trying to find its legs early on, so I can't complain too much.

I can't help but think this latest episode might've been initially plotted to be earlier and was moved back while it was made - it's an awesome episode but is so removed from everything around it. Even the Varian appearance at the end - minus the ominous music - could fit basically anywhere in the season.

Alright, now I am really interested in Xavier. I hope we get some explain-o this season.

Doublepost, since it has been a week and a half;

So now Rapunzel is receiving premonitions, and actively uses her hair's special abilities; continuing the theme of magic. Also Max is awesome. Annnnnd we have Overprotective Dad FTW. This looks ugly, and daddy dearest knows a lot more than he has let on.

Looks like next episode Varian is going to show up and offer Rapunzel the choice go with him to save Corona or stay home as her father said, and the spread of the rocks makes the choice for her.

So I'm guessing next episode is going to have Rapunzel becoming more and more bitter about her father, until at the end of the episode it turns out Varian is using her and/or going unhinged and she realizes that - overboard Well-Intentioned Extremist or not - Frederick had a point.

Seems probable-those are common enough story beats. Would also like to know what Arianna knows. And that scroll had the original flower that Gothel used and eventually saved the Queen, giving Rapunzel her powers. Will be interesting to learn if these things were known when they originally sought the flower.

Ooooh, a two-parter season finale on January 13th.

Not many surprises these last few eps but the call backs to the movie were great (Eugene in the Tower!) and the tone has clearly become more serious.

Rapunzel watching the tower go down was a pretty touching moment.

In my opinion, Tangled: The Series in many ways feels like a Spiritual Successor to Aladdin The Animated Series. It does do a good job of adding new favorites, and also expanding on the universe of the franchise. Just imagine a crossover between Tangled and Aladdin the animated series, that would be awesome. I know they come from different timelines, but just think of it in an AU.

edited 16th Dec '17 7:53:33 PM by firewriter