Tangled: the Series

The most amusing part about the end of The Alchemist Returns - besides the fact that Varian just stole the Kingdom's most guarded treasure yet uses literally the first place anyone would look as a hideout - is how the big revelation that Varian comes to at the end (that all the flower's power went into Rapunzel) is something that's really obvious to anyone who knows the full story (like the audience) or has been paying attention in general, but which Varian was the last to know. I literally shouted "duh!" at the screen.

It actually makes sense that he wouldn't, though, because he doesn't believe in magic. He doesn't really know what Rapunzel has been through and thinks everything is chemistry alchemy, so of course he'd assume that if the ingredient produced powerful effects before, using it again would yield the same results.

The Tangled setting isn't too difficult to put into the Aladdin setting, beyond the fact that Aladdin happens several hundred years at least beforehand. It helps that they're in two separate parts of the world, but I thought it'd be a neat touch if - like - a relic from the Aladdin series showed up in this one as a cameo. An idea I kept thinking of was Varien coming into possession of some old scientific equipment that has Mechanikles' symbol on it or something.

edited 16th Dec '17 9:09:08 PM by KnownUnknown

Yeowch...ol' Fred getting compared to Gothel must have cut deep. And the prophetic visions continue... Rapunzel may not be a magic user, but she definitely has some power. Obvious set up is that she loses all her abilities when she finally gets her hair shorn for good ahead of Tangled Ever After; think she could retain any of these powers afterwards?

And we continue with the expansion of magic and technology, now mixed together-I heartily approve.

edited 16th Dec '17 9:59:48 PM by ViperMagnum357

Woke up early today and watched the season finale in it's premiere. I was blown away. They actually topped themselves after "Queen For A Day" here. Cannot wait for what comes next in Season 2!

Man, Varian made the jump to straight-up supervillainy pretty handily.

edited 13th Jan '18 2:22:35 PM by KnownUnknown

That was one of the best parts! After how perfectly Varian's Face–Heel Turn was set up, I didn't want them pulling any punches with him as a villain and boy did they not. There was part of me that was still expecting he'd come around back to good again by the end (I didn't want this to happen though, since if Varian's good at the start and then good for the next two seasons, it would turn him going bad into this weird period for his character that would be ultimately needless), but nope, he's still deranged and completely unrepentant in the end, setting him up for future villainy in the next seasons. Love it!

If anything he's even worse now, because he's clearly lost his mind completely. This, I've got to say, was a really good Heel turn. I've always felt like, when they're well done, Heel turns and Face turns can be some of the best plots out there, but you don't see series - especially animated series - committing to really effective ones. But this one, this is one of my favorites. You feel bad for him, almost root for him, but want the heroes to take him down all at the same time.

And if Disney doesn't sell a toy of Vatomaton, they're missing out on a huge opportunity.

However, since Rapunzel is leaving Corona for a while, I don't know how much he'll appear next season. Even if he escapes from the dungeon, he doesn't have much reason to follow her any more beyond pure spite, which admittedly is as decent a motive as any for him at this point, but still. I'm guessing we'll get a "Rapunzel returns home, and the villains break out" episode or something, or if he's still involved in the Myth Arc Rapunzel might come to him for advice Hannibal Lecter style.

edited 13th Jan '18 2:39:40 PM by KnownUnknown

I don't think Rapunzel will be away from Corona all of next season. After the premiere, she'll probably return home but this season she's actually allowed to leave kingdom grounds, so we'll get episodes set in Corona and episodes set outside of Corona. As for Varian, the Hannibal Lecter role would suit him very well, but I'm also expecting a team-up between him and Lady Caine. Both of them are imprisoned, both of them loved/miss their fathers, and both of them want revenge on Corona's royalty, and Rapunzel and her friends in particular. I'd be let down if they somehow passed this opportunity up.

Season 2 when?

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edited 14th Jan '18 4:09:08 PM by anyatt

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So the series page has just been edited to add that Season 2 will start June 20 (yey!).

Also that they released a poster with the "mysterious figure" and it is a woman (ha! confirms my Wild Mass Guessing from a few months ago).

Does anyone have a link to this poster?

News report, and the official tweet about it.

It's June 24th evidently, not June 20th. Also, the series is getting renamed to Rapunzel's Tangled Adventure, which is both an awful, clunky name for a series and apparently named after the Frozen short, which makes it doubly awful.

edited 3rd Jun '18 4:48:33 PM by KnownUnknown

Thanks. Great poster, looks like there'll be more action and adventure in Season 2.

The name change is weird yes. Also since there already was confusion about the name last year (the series name seemed to be "Tangled Before Ever After", until it became clear that that was just the 1st episode's title and the series was called "Tangled: The Series").

Spotlight on a new character.

Looks like they're doing the "old ally tries to bring Eugene back into his life of crime" bit again, except this time with an old flame instead of an old friend.

Hmmm, interesting to see how this character would affect Eugene & Rapunzel's relationship. It would certainly make Cassandra even more skeptical of Eugene, lol.

P.S. Weird name. For most of the clip I honestly thought she was called "Stallion" (the voice actors kind of lampshade this, even).

I was wondering when they'd try a plot like this. The obviously couldn't do this with Rapunzel since she was locked up without experiencing any human contact save Gothel for most of her life.

Another new character.

Incoming fans shipping her with Varian in 5... 4... 3....

More seriously, much like Stalyan is conceptually reminiscent of Lance, Vex's Kid Thief bit is reminiscent of Red and Angry, but still a crook.

edited 23rd Jun '18 12:12:57 PM by KnownUnknown

Just FYI, my Ti Vo is showing "Rapunzel's Tangled Adventures" as a new series (despite numbering the episodes starting with season 2). So you may need create a new recording if you're using a DVR.

The first episode of the next season was pretty good. The fight against the Baron was very cool, plus a couple more possibly recurring antagonists (the Baron and Stalyan are a good deal more competent than Lady Caine, at least). We see what Quirin's background is (though not how he ended up in Old Corona), and get some concrete origins for the rocks (though Rapunzel doesn't know them). Pretty enticing stuff.

Not what I was expecting. I was thinking closer to a mystery, rather than a guide who has a good handle on the situation. Hamstringing the Stone Power is obviously a narrative choice to avoid When All You Have Is a Hammer…; but still disappointing we did not see a more measured application. Also from a narrative standpoint, Adira is kinda over the top. Introducing a superior warrior is one thing, but that more closely resembled Looney Tunes rather than anything we have seen before.

I liked this episode. Very heartwarming.

Just in case you forgot how far along the Sliding Scale of Cynicism vs. Idealism this series was. The turn they did with Vex was interesting and probably my favorite part of the story, though it makes her even more reminiscent of Red and Angry than she was before. Her Heel Turn surprising even herself was a fun touch.

And Quaid, of course, is badass. RIP Reg Cathey.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Jul 2nd 2018 at 12:08:27 PM

I'm bit confused why YMMV page claims this series got grimdark? I mean, I don't think that comes with understanding of what is grimdark or audience apathy due to darkness

A strong reaction to the series' mild mid-season 1 Cerebus Syndrome, it looks like.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Jul 11th 2018 at 9:02:26 AM

The last few episodes were neat. They're back to the "character has a flaw, but goes on adventure to realize it and do better" formula, though with of course more of a major direction than last season.

I feel like the Forest of No Return episode was kind of unfair on Eugene, but still loved the idea of trekking through a cursed region and besides said harshness the team up with Adira was great.

The Freebird episode was also a fun one-shot, with great single use villains, a nice character bit for Cass and Rapunzel and an awesome turn for fun to threat, though I think the Disney Death + Deus ex Machina at almost literally the last minute was a waste.

Maybe swapping the episodes would've worked better: where at the end of Freebird Rapunzel is stuck as a bird, but then Adira appears with information that can help and they go to the Forest to find something to cure her.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Jul 22nd 2018 at 11:44:24 AM