Netflix Daredevil

If the goal is to get Fisk's name passed around UFO and Truther message boards, that's an even weaker plan.

I think the idea was to uncover something that gets other people to look into him even if they're not journalists at a major paper. If more people do that then it's possible one of them will eventually find something a bit more compelling.

Didn't Fisk claim his mother was dead? If nothing else, Urich's story would have indisputably revealed him as a liar in that regard, which might serve to cast suspicion on him about his motives for apparently covering up his past.

edited 1st Jun '15 8:25:57 AM by DrDougsh

The thing is, if Ben had written that the mother is still alive, and the father disappeared under mysterious circumstances and that said mother claimed that Fisk killed him, there wouldn't be any problems with it. The "she told me" part isn't good journalism, but it wouldn't open up the paper to a lawsuit either because saying "someone claimed that Fisk did it" is not the same as saying "Fisk did it".

That's exactly what Karen figured they'd do, before talking to the mother.

Jason Statham being eyed for 'Bullseye'

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/JoshWildingNewsAndReviews/news/?a=121364

From the article: "For years, fans have been saying that Jason Statham would make a great Bullseye"

Wait what? Who said that? And why?

I have never seen Statham as Bullseye. I don't know why, he just seems...not like Bullseye.

He wouldn't be a bad Bullseye, but I don't think he has the right type of assholeish cruelty required for the character.

Personally, my favorite choice would be Vinnie Jones, despite the fact he has the wrong physique (Vinnie Jones is built like a tank, Bullseye tends to be a lot smaller and leaner) and probably the wrong nationality (I don't recall Bullseye being cockney), I feel he has the assholeish cruelty down to an art form.

Based on his performance in Furious 7, I think he'd be a great Bullseye.

I love Vinnie Jones in everything, even in football but he's too old to be Bullseye. Snatch was about fifteen years ago. Vinnie Jones is, what, late forties by now ? Fifties ? He's a lot closer to Vincent D'Onofrio's age than he is Charlie Cox. They'd have to have a very different dynamic than in the comics.

Maybe Iwan Rheon? I heard he was rather convincing at playing assholeish cruelty

edited 5th Jun '15 7:28:06 PM by Julep

I think it still works, age aside.

Iwan Rewon seems too young, and Bullseye seems to be a more rugged and tough-as-nails type of fellow, while Ramsay is...not.

My girlfriend and I were once discussing who would make a good Bullseye and I suggested Mike O'Malley based on his performance as Nicky Augustine in Justified. That said, that's probably too much jackass, not enough badass.

For all its issues, the Ben Affleck movie did something right when it cast Colin Farell as Bullseye. He and Michael Clarke Duncan were so very easily the best part of that film.

Looks like Statham is out for the running as Bullseye. Apparently, the leak killed that deal

http://bloody-disgusting.com/editorials/3348181/statham-daredevil-leaks-can-sometimes-damage/

I doubt that a leak would really kill a deal unless Marvel is set on keeping it secret. And the Dr. Strange example is pretty nonsensical, because the very same thing happened with Cumberbatch. Everyone knew that he was in negotiations beforehand and nobody was surprised when he signed on. I think the more important point is what a Marvel deal entails. It is a serious commitment for the actor.

I don't think the leak killed it, so much as the "leak" was a lie from a site specializing in starting up rumors to serve as clickbait, then counts on people forgetting all about it once it's revealed to be false.

BREAKING NEWS: THE WALKING DEAD'S Jon Bernthal HAS BEEN CASTED AS THE PUNISHER!!!!!!

http://comicbook.com/2015/06/08/jon-bernthal-cast-as-punisher-in-daredevil-season-2/?utm_source=Comicbook.com&utm_campaign=2e3990069a-2015_06_09%3A20%3A20%3A37Comicbook.com+Daily+Newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_7a2d10cb6e-2e3990069a-269381265

We were literally just discussing that.

In the other thread (general Marvel Netflix shows).

edited 9th Jun '15 2:34:31 PM by stingerbrg

Sure enough, my bad. I got the two mixed up.

Interesting though, given just how far Daredevil (the character) already goes. How much further is the Punisher going to take it if he's going to be pure antagonist? DD has already dished out literal torture and some nasty, nasty beatings. To some viewers surely 'just' killing criminals would be better (quicker) than that?

Though I imagine this is kind of the point they will explore in the series itself.

I guess the main difference is that Daredevil investigates to reach the core of a problem and tackles every criminal on both a physical and legal level, while the punisher fancies himself to be fit to judge and execute, too.

Similarly, Murdock's actually trying to clean up his streets, while Castle is pursuing a single-minded crusade of blood. Motivation matters; if a day came where Hell's Kitchen was no longer full of crime, Murdock would be able to pat himself on the back and congratulate himself for a job well done. Castle would go somewhere else to kill more criminals, because that's all that's left of him.

He has no intention or illusion that his actions will actually stop the crime. Depending on the writer, he may have no intentions at all. In his lighter portrayals, Castle is a Blood Knight who believes that some crimes are unforgivable and, once committed, there can be no justice but death.

In his darker, Castle is a hollowed-out shell of a man. The man Frank Castle died with his family, leaving only a husk. He lost his family to random, violent crime, so the soldier in him declared war on random, violent crime. He's spent his career just going through the motions, fighting the war like the military taught him to do.

In either case, the Punisher doesn't have any grander ideals or overarching goals beyond putting bullets in people who do bad things.

EDIT: This is a guy so single-mindedly dedicated to his vocation that when he was in prison, he had to eat with his hands; he was forbidden to have cutlery because he kept murdering inmates with them.

edited 10th Jun '15 7:15:49 AM by TobiasDrake

On a more general note, I could easily see the Punisher torturing people to death for fun instead of just torturing them for information.

Ironically, in the lighter takes that is entirely within reason, while in the darker takes he doesn't really understand the concept of fun and would torture them until he got the information, then kill them.

Either way, nothing will ever top Thomas Jane's Punisher with the greatest torture scene in cinematic history.