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Genesis890 Since: Mar, 2015
#1: Mar 30th 2015 at 3:55:26 PM

Let's say there was someone who was very good at mimicking other people's handwriting. However, he tried mimicking someones hand writing that his opposite of his own. Despite a person being very good at mimicking someones handwriting, would there be a noticeable different between writing with your right hand or left hand?

edited 30th Mar '15 3:55:42 PM by Genesis890

Sharysa Since: Jan, 2001
#2: Mar 30th 2015 at 4:39:51 PM

Yep, writing with your non-dominant hand is going to be fucked unless you're explicitly ambidextrous. Right-handed writing slants differently from left-handed, and even if you're careful to get that right, the smudging that happens with left-handed writers would be a giveaway if he was imitating a left-handed person. Alternately, the LACK of smudging and erasing/crossing-out from a righty imitating a lefty would be a giveaway for an eagle-eyed person.

Kazeto Elementalist from somewhere in Europe. Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
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#3: Mar 30th 2015 at 5:03:57 PM

Everything can be noticeable as far as differences in handwriting go.

But at the same time, any such difference can be eliminated if you practice enough and find a way to mimic that which is different. Don't ask me how I know that one, it's a long and weird story but suffice to say I have some experience with that (it's far enough in the past that I can't get in trouble for admitting to it now, in any case).

Anyway, if someone is good at falsifying handwriting, then the person would presumably know that it's all about practice.

Oh, and there's a difference between falsifying handwriting in general or only the signature. The latter, if you are really skilled, can be mimicked moderately well (to the point where they can only detect it if they send it to analysis) in a few minutes. But the former might take even days to fake because you actually have to force yourself to write that way rather than just force a sequence of pen strokes that gives you the signature.

Also, the type of pen you use to write it matters, as does the type of pen the person whose signature you are faking uses. With some it's easier to fake it, with some it's harder, and some out you immediately due to not being used by the ... let's say "victim" and thus automatically being too different. Not to mention that some pens smudge and some not, some people prefer black pens and some prefer blue, some use really thin markers instead of pens, and all that; all of this may be noticed by those who actually care about it.

Of course, there's also the fact that some people don't really pay attention to handwriting or if they do they rely on their not-really-accurate-because-it-never-quite-is-but-humans-like-to-fool-themselves memory and don't have any samples to compare it to, in which case it only matters that the handwriting is superficially similar.

Genesis890 Since: Mar, 2015
#4: Mar 30th 2015 at 5:43:45 PM

Yeah, I've been watching Danganronpa and I've been enjoying. Twice already it has using writing a message to try and point the finger at someone, but it was clear that it was faked. So it got me thinking if there was someone who was an Ultimate handwriting or sorts who could mimic anyone's handwriting. It got me thinking further if the person tried to frame someone who was left-handed (they had no knowledge that the person was left-handed), while writing a message with their right-hand. I'm trying to image a situation in which it would be plausible for someone to notice a mistake in the handwriting. However, when you mention smudges, I wonder if I could use that. For example, an expert is able write very close to how the person wrote, but they didn't include the smudges, because he didn't realize that the person writes with smudges all the time. He thought it was just one or a handful of time.

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#5: Mar 30th 2015 at 5:57:13 PM

Well, technically speaking you don't need to be some sort of "ultimate handwriting faker" to do that. But with every style you are trying to fake, you have to spend enough time at it to be able to fake it convincingly, and someone who is "ultimate" will simply need days instead of weeks or months (or instead of not being able to do it at all). And, as I had mentioned, if it's just a signature then someone with "ultimate skill" might be able to do it as quickly as in few minutes because with that you don't need to fake the handwriting itself but rather just copy the signature convincingly which is easier.

That being said, if you are trying to fake someone's handwriting as a whole then procuring a sample that is somewhat representative of their style seems like something you'd keep on the "do it unless you are a complete moron beyond anyone's ability to save" list. And if you had such a sample then it doesn't matter if they are left-handed or right-handed for as long as you can mimic that (though anyone who actually is into this to the point of having "ultimate skill" will have become ambidextrous).

Oh, and smudges are really dependent on the kind of pen you write with. I'm left-handed but using a pen that specifically does not smudge for me ever, so if anyone was trying to fake my handwriting and made the assumption that there should be smudges because I'm left-handed, would have outed themselves because of this. Though admittedly, I was able to write without smudges even with other pens, even if it took a bit more effort to do that.

Sharysa Since: Jan, 2001
#6: Mar 30th 2015 at 8:55:25 PM

Yeah, I write almost exclusively in pencil and unless I have to write smudge-free, it's too much effort to do that.

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