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Sterok Since: Apr, 2012 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#2126: Jul 14th 2016 at 10:25:39 AM

Don't worry, Nintendo will get the Final Fantasy VI remake to make up for it.

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Hashil Since: Aug, 2010
#2127: Jul 14th 2016 at 10:25:43 AM

They put Ryu in there despite his latest game being Playstation 4 and PC exclusive. To this day I have no idea what they were thinking with any of the guest DL Cs, Bayonetta aside.

edited 14th Jul '16 10:26:12 AM by Hashil

powerpuffbats Goddess of Nature Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#2128: Jul 14th 2016 at 10:34:02 AM

Ryu at least is owned by a company already represented in Smash and is iconic. Cloud is just iconic.

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#2129: Jul 14th 2016 at 10:37:36 AM

Sakurai is also a huge Street Fighter fan.

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Hashil Since: Aug, 2010
#2130: Jul 14th 2016 at 10:41:57 AM

Cliff Bleszinski is a huge Miyamoto fan but I doubt he or any one in his company is allowed to bend over backwards and dedicate millions of dollars and resources to create content that advertises for the Xbox's competitors.

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#2131: Jul 14th 2016 at 11:34:27 AM

It doesn't have anything to do with advertising. Smash Bros has always been about iconic characters duking it out. If there is an opportunity to add an iconic character, it's taken, regardless of if it benefits another company with advertising. Smash Bros has always been Doing It for the Art, not Money, Dear Boy.

Hashil Since: Aug, 2010
#2132: Jul 14th 2016 at 11:38:49 AM

...Yet all those characters cost money, the game sells other forms of downloadable content, relevant games each character stars in (and links to learn more about/buy those games) are listed on the Smash For's website, and Corrin was chosen with the explicit intent to help sell copies of the newest Fire Emblem.

Video games are a business, especially games as big as Smash, and I still don't see how they stand to gain investing so much money in characters that Nintendo ultimately doesn't benefit from, unless Amiibo sales are lot more lucrative than I think.

LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#2133: Jul 14th 2016 at 11:42:04 AM

[up]Most of Nintendo's money last year came from amiibos. Game and hardware sales were down IIRC but amiibos were one big + sign for Nintendo.

edited 14th Jul '16 11:44:46 AM by LordofLore

Hashil Since: Aug, 2010
#2134: Jul 14th 2016 at 11:42:35 AM

Oh. There we go than, I suppose.

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#2135: Jul 14th 2016 at 11:42:37 AM

The characters themselves cost money to purchase, as DLC. Far as I can tell, it's a win-win scenario for Nintendo and the company that owns that character.

Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#2136: Jul 14th 2016 at 12:53:35 PM

It's still way up in the air, but SE still has tight bonds to Nintendo's handheld market and the NX might be considered a good platform for them to develop or port to.

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Mizerous Takat Empress from Outworld Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: Brewing the love potion
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#2137: Jul 14th 2016 at 2:15:52 PM

Well Street Fighter was on a Nintendo...3DS :I I just think if you can't get a game for your console when you promote other franchises it's a missed opportunity.

edited 14th Jul '16 2:16:30 PM by Mizerous

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#2138: Jul 14th 2016 at 3:06:15 PM

[up]Plus Ryu's in Tatsunoko vs. Capcom, and the Street Fighter 2 series is on the Virtual Consoles for both Wii and Wii U.

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#2139: Jul 14th 2016 at 3:41:43 PM

Also...Smash is a mix of both money/artistic reasons. Personally, I think Sakurai leans more to artistic, but doesn't turn down things that would make Nintendo more money.

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#2140: Jul 14th 2016 at 3:50:23 PM

We happen to know exactly why Sakurai picked Cloud over the other characters SE brought to him thanks to the interview with him and Nomura. He could've picked any of the heroes or villains who started out on Nintendo systems but took the one that he thought was more iconic than all the others even if his history is pretty much the reason SE left Nintendo for Sony.

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#2141: Jul 14th 2016 at 5:06:01 PM

[up][up][up] I like how you called it the Street Fighter 2 series tongue

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#2142: Jul 14th 2016 at 11:02:27 PM

There are multiple versions of Street Fighter II on the virtual console.

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#2144: Jul 15th 2016 at 7:01:59 PM

Isn't he the one who was a big piece of shit and complained about how Nintendo really demanded quality from SK for Eternal Darkness and Twin Snakes when he just wanted his devs to poop something barely functional and take the money ASAP?

He'd fit right in with what Konami's become, at least.

Well, regardless, a proper Twin Snakes port would be more than welcome.

edited 15th Jul '16 7:02:28 PM by Pulse

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#2145: Jul 15th 2016 at 7:16:12 PM

I would second wanting a Twin Snakes port for NX. MGS 1 is a third party game that's been on my radar for a while (and MGS 2, but I have the HD Collection. Or I could just download it onto my PS 3. Or I could get a PS 2 Slim and a copy of the game).

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Ogodei Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers from The front lines Since: Jan, 2011
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#2146: Jul 15th 2016 at 8:29:52 PM

Dyack's just trying to stay on the radar after his Eternal Darkness spiritual successor kickstarter failed.

Man, NX rumors have dropped to naught since E3. Painful waiting time ahoy!

strawberryflavored Since: Sep, 2010
#2147: Jul 19th 2016 at 10:38:25 AM

Ubisoft says that they expect the NX to "take back" casual players. Given how they treated the Wii U, I'm inclined to be a bit skeptical of their support for the NX.

burnpsy Since: Sep, 2010
#2149: Jul 19th 2016 at 11:24:24 AM

Given Ubisoft's precarious ownership situation right now, even if they didn't have a poor history on the subject, I'd doubt on the basis that a Vivendi hostile takeover would probably render current statements moot anyway.

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#2150: Jul 19th 2016 at 11:27:32 AM

"Taking back" the casual audience is going to be really difficult to do since that audience has moved on to mobile devices. I kinda wish they wouldn't always try to innovate. Sometimes it works, other times it doesn't.

I guess I don't get why Nintendo doesn't make a traditional console anymore.

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