New DuckTales Animated Series

Same for me with the German dubs of the Disney Afternoon shows, I found it funny when people talked about watching the show with subtitles to understand Donald when I primarily had them turned on to make a rhyme out of Scrooge's Scottish accent.

It's funny how some people also want reboots of Tailspin and Goof Troop, after they teased Cape Suzette and Spoonerville.

Tailspin is weird, and with a premise that shouldn't have worked at all, much less become a perfectly respectable offering in the Disney Afternoon. It's a 1930s AU of the Jungle Book, where the characters are seaplane pilots. Given the strange premise, and just the fact that the Jungle Book is just not as popular as it used to be, I think people might just be confused by it. I wouldn't mind seeing some cameos or something, but I don't know if it really needs it own show.

Goof Troop isn't a bad show by any means. It has a lot of good comedy and heart, but you can only do so much with the premise, and just isn't quite as memorable or interesting as some of the earlier shows in the line up were. It did give us the Goofy movie, which is great, but I think a reboot would just be redundant.

edited 18th Oct '17 3:41:19 PM by megaeliz

One thing to note is that Max Goof has been gradually aged up in every appearance after Goof Troop and was a young adult in his most recent appearances. It'd be a shame to break the tradition of having him age in real time.

I didn't know that! Maybe there could be a cameo by an adult Max or something. Like I said, we don't need a reboot, but it would be a fun way to help establish a shared Universe.

edited 18th Oct '17 3:41:38 PM by megaeliz

I watched the Tale Spin pilot movie recently, and it was fantastic. I think it would fit right in with today's flavor of cartoons. I don't think you have to change Don Karnage or Shere Khan all that much, if at all, to make them "edgier", as seems to be the fashion these days. I mean, both of them rather unambiguously threatened death on someone in the pilot. And a kid got shot at. With real bullets! From a minigun-equipped plane, no less.

Also, I found the character driven nature of Talespin pretty strong in principle. Now if only the writers had kept the characterization straight, instead of wandering all over the place...

I would say, in general, todays cartoons tend to be generally Denser and Wackier than cartoons of the previous decade, but also tend to be even more arc based and character driven, which can sometimes lead to Darker and Edgier storytelling.

I was watching Darkwing Duck, and I was thinking that they might need to tone down certain aspects, like Negaduck's complete Axe Craziness. Even with his sillier aspects and quirks, if it wasn't for the extremely cartoony nature of the show, Negaduck would be absolutely terrifying.

I mean, just look at this.

edited 18th Oct '17 11:50:17 AM by megaeliz

It helped Talespin's case that while it became a show starring Jungle Book characters, it didn't start out that way, and the show never actually relies on its Jungle Book connection to reel the audience in - it just focused on being a good show with cool characters. The audience doesn't need to know who the Jungle Book characters are to enjoy the show.

If Tailspin were to get a reboot what could that look like?

To me, one of the things that makes Darkwing Duck such a good candidate for a reboot is how strong the main characters are. As long as you stick to core who these characters are, you have more creative license to shake things up, and reinvent it for a new audience, while not alienating older fans.

But with Tailspin the charm is more in it's retro setting, love of classic planes, and genre throwback nature to pulpy adventure serials.

edited 10th Dec '17 5:56:13 AM by megaeliz

I disagree on Negaduck having to be toned down. Negaduck should absolutely be terrifying.

And its not like modern shows are pulling punches with their villains either. Bill Cipher is definitely scary as hell. Ma Beagle seemed to have deadly intentions with Webby. The Tumblebums are pretty scary, too.

And then there's Magica, who seems to be a lot more demonic than her usual incarnation.

Maybe. It would depend on what direction they would take the show.

I think we've already established this show wants to be darker and edgier, so I'm not discounting it yet.

On characters, I think I would be fine getting rid of Drake's annoying neighbors, the Muddlefoots. They were fun for what they were worth, aka, literally only existing to annoy Drake, but Honker was the only important person in that family and his role could easily be filled in by a new character.

Also I might consider possibly replacing liquidator, as he was always the least important of Darkwing's major Rogues Gallery, and the writers never knew what to do with him anyway. He is part of the "Fearsome Five" though, so maybe not, I'm not sure. I would leave out a lot of the one or two shot villains of the show, such as Moliarty and such as well. (Although I do like Tuscernini)

edited 20th Oct '17 1:58:10 PM by megaeliz

Megavolt, on the other hand, should definitely return as DW's most hilarious villain.

Of course! Megavolt is such a fun villain that I would love to see come back.

Do you guy have any ideas for what you would like to see in a potential reboot, or want to expand on someone else's?

edited 18th Oct '17 1:34:18 PM by megaeliz

I want Tim Curry to come back as Taurus Bulba, who fills in the role as the Kingpin for St. Canard.

I still haven't seen the whole show, but I think I've seen enough to know what I'd want a proper reboot to be like. First off, get Jim Cummings back. The man was amazing as Darkwing and he's still in the business, and he's practically chomping at the bit to play Darkwing again, so get him back pronto. And Castanella is still playing Homer on Simpsons, so get him back as Megavolt while you're at it.

Anyhoo, the first thing I want to see is for the reboot to be more like the Pilot. The series as a whole is great, but the Pilot had everything the rest of the series had while also having some actual genuine emotion and Character Development. That's what the show needs in this day and age, but the best part is that the characters are already so good, all you need to do is give them some prompts for growth and development and you're off to the races. Have Darwking learn to be just a bit less pompous and condescending and more considerate towards his posse. Have Launchpad mull over the differences between his life with Darkwing and his life with Scrooge while also upping his brainpower a tad. And of course, there's Gosyln and the Quivering Quack. The list goes on.

Of course, the show's also gonna need a Myth Arc of some sort, or at least season-long arcs. Season 1 could be about Taurus Bulba. Extend the plot of the Pilot to an entire season, or at the very least elements of it. You can still have most of it happen in the first episode, but Taurus can still be looking for another means to activate the weapon while also attempting other means of world domination. Heck, maybe there's more to Gosyln's grampa then we thought.

Season 2 can be about Fowl, with Stealbeak as The Heavy and eventual Big Bad. Establish Fowl as an evil organization that Darkwing's gone up against before but that hasn't been active in a while, and is only now crawling out of the woodworks. Throw in some conspiracies and revelations while also maybe having a bit of focus on Steelbeak, showing him being fed up with just being Fowl's go-to guy as he tries to climb his way to the top of the organization, culminating in him becoming the season's Big Bad.

Season 3's about the Justice Ducks and the Fearsome Five. Most of their members will already have been introduced up until this point, with the exception being Nega Duck. Right at the start of the season, he shows up out of nowhere and Darkwing follows his trail, leading to Life, the Negaverse, and Everything. The other Justice Ducks will have been introduced too. With all of the players in place, the stage is set for the Justice Ducks and the Fearsome Five to finally form, with the Five staging several attempts at taking over St.Canard and the Justice Ducks having to learn to work together to stop them once and for all, with Darkwing being the one who has to learn the most because he wouldn't be Darkwing if he didn't. Not really sure where else to go after that.

edited 18th Oct '17 5:01:37 PM by kkhohoho

That sounds amazing. What's so great about the prospect of a Darkwing reboot, is that it can finally go in the more character driven and slightly edgier (although still incredibly funny) direction it always wanted to.

Since we all know that Jim would come back in heartbeat, I think a requirement for who will voice Goselyn is they must have good chemistry with him. Getting Darkwing and Goselyn's relationship right is absolutely ensential for the show to work, and should be cast accordingly.

Maybe the arc with Goselyn and Quiverwing Quack could be pushed to the second or third season? I'm thinking the first season would establish a new status quo for the new series, new supporting cast, new villains, old villains, the developing relationships between the characters, etc. Gos trying to make establish a Superhero identity could be a good shake up.

edited 24th Oct '17 5:31:01 AM by megaeliz

The duck comics that this show and the old Ducktales are based off off: How long was a typical story? How were they published? Were they in a magazine or something? Was there ever any sort of myth arc or continuous plot thread or even a two or three part story?

American comics at least, tend to be mostly one offs with a few exceptions, such as certain comics by Don Rosa, for example. Not sure about other counties though.

I know half of you guys have seen it already, but here's the official promo for the Mark Beaks episode. I like how the beginning parodies a iPhone commercial or something.

One thing I love about this show are the background character designs. They are much more varied and represent a much larger array of animals, and actually reminds me more of Darkwing Duck than Ducktales, as the background characters were also much more diverse.

edited 18th Oct '17 6:37:48 PM by megaeliz

If Mark Beaks gets popular enough, I do wonder if the Disney comics will try to implement him. A said before, Beaks represents the new school vision of a billionaire these days.

Seems like Mark Beaks the character is primarily based off of Mark Zuckerberg, while his company is more based off of Alphabet / Google.

They did say he was inspired by Steve Jobs.

Well, I know for a fact Steve Jobs would have never put slides in his building. Jobs was known for being an extremely strict boss that ran his company like a dictator.

From what I heard from those who have seen the episode, Beaks is rather Faux Affably Evil.

I thought the slides were a reference to Google's utopian workplace thing?