No, the other one.
I see little point in having a folder called Walking Spoiler or something of the such, especially if it's just one character. Most of the time you can just figure out who it is by who's missing, especially if it's a major character who otherwise should belong in a different section of the page.
Otherwise, tagging just a folder with a spoiler warning (after name or group, depending on how the page is organised) doesn't seem like a problem to me, if it's just one or two characters it applies to. If it's a decent number of characters, you might as well tag the entire page.
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Why do we have to have this discussion again? This is like the third time. If it's just a handful (depending on number of characters), you rename their individual folders with Spoiler Character or Walking Spoiler or somesuch (every individual character should have their own folder anyway, which makes it easier) and remove all spoilers from the folder. This is especially useful for cases where the character's name and very existence is a spoiler; normally, named characters don't need this treatment except in extreme cases. If a significant portion of the page would be in folders like this, then you just make the whole page Spoilers Off.
Here's an example of one character, and here's an example of several (but the Loads And Loads Of Characters nature of the game means it's still not a significant portion).
edited 15th Nov '14 11:02:19 AM by Discar
Sorry for the doublepost, but I'm going to quote an old ATT post I made on the subject just so I don't have to reiterate.
For example, let's take Characters.Bravely Default, which had a lot of problems for a while. Ringabel is a major Walking Spoiler, and worse he's a main character, so stuffing him into a hidden folder isn't really an option. But the fact that he's a Walking Spoiler is not, in itself, a spoiler; we know from the very start that he has amnesia, so there's clearly some secret going on there. It was surprisingly easy to keep spoiler tags in his folder without violating policy. On the other hand, The Dragon is a major spoiler in every single way, so was given their own folder separate from their other identity, which works because they act like a completely different character pre/post Face–Heel Turn.
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I'd found some discussions on spoilers in character pages in general, but nothing addressing folder titles specifically (besides just "don't spoiler tag" there), and nobody mentioned an older consensus on in the ATT thread (It's pretty much a mod post and a bunch of people disagreeing with that). I'll poke around a little more and see if I can find the older ones, though.
I am biased as someone who would prefer to have character sheets get minimal spoiler hiding anyway due to the nature of what they deal with, but I will admit I personally dislike spoiler folder titles (on the same principle that trope names are never spoilers: you can't know if you want to be spoiled if you have no clue what the spoiler is) but those two examples seem to handle it passably at least. Not being familiar with either, I'd say the Borderlands example wouldn't be hurt by having her name on the folder with a spoiler warning, but the BD example is definitely a sticky situation.
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@Discar: What if the character's role as a Walking Spoiler is itself a Walking Spoiler? (For example, Glemmy Toto from Mobile Suit Gundam ZZ, who's a character of moderate importance up until they overturn the entire game board.)
edited 16th Nov '14 8:44:54 PM by Ramidel
The real problem I have with the folders is that just having them merely be in bold doesn't real cause them to stand out that much. The folders stand out a lot more when it's in all caps.
But I'm not sure whether they should say Walking Spoiler or Spoiler Character.
I don't think it really matters one way or another. I guess "Spoiler Character" is probably better than "Walking Spoiler" both grammatically, and so you don't accidentally end up on the Walking Spoiler page when you're trying to open the folder, but that's just a minor detail.
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If the character's role as a Walking Spoiler is in itself a spoiler, it's spoiled either way. Either we have Spoiler Character in a "Spoiler Character" folder and their "entry" in their would-be-folder says "see Spoiler Character folder" or we have a shitload of spoilers in a non-spoiler-marked folder.
Now that we've banned spoiler-tagged trope names, the only way to avoid self-fulfilling spoilers is to make a note at the top of the page stating what point the reader needs to have reached to avoid this problem.
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We should make sure they're both bolded and all capped. That way, a very clear warning comes across. It should be "SPOILER CHARACTER".
edited 29th Nov '14 8:24:04 AM by SatoshiBakura
There's been an ongoing discussion on Ask The Tropers on how to handle the matter of Walking Spoiler characters on character pages. The main point of contention is how to handle characters who are, by nature of their very name and existence, potentially huge spoilers. There seem to be two main options at argument here:
There is also the fact that different characters are spoilers in different ways and one size may not fit all situations. However, a clear set of guidelines or at least format preferences is needed here.
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