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#101: Jul 29th 2015 at 7:00:59 AM

Oh FFS... Someone needs to sue them for making false statements.

Great I will never be able to upgrade to 10 I guess and they are stopping support for 7 soon I bet.

optimusjamie Since: Jun, 2010
#102: Jul 29th 2015 at 7:22:03 AM

So... Is Windows 10 worth getting?

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#103: Jul 29th 2015 at 7:22:14 AM

I think they might have had retracted that statement before, but either it was done in a hushed way or people still covered the original statement as fact, adding to the confusion.

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#104: Jul 29th 2015 at 7:36:30 AM

It's only a false statement if they said they would do it when they actually always planned not to. Saying they would do it and then deciding later "actually, we're not going to do this after all" is not a false statement.

edited 29th Jul '15 7:36:43 AM by Deadbeatloser22

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#105: Jul 29th 2015 at 8:40:58 AM

OK, so I've had the 80240020 error four times. And I'm a little bit scared to try the workarounds in case I break something.

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#106: Jul 29th 2015 at 2:07:53 PM

What is that error? I'm looking forward to doing this installation pretty soon, though I may wait until the weekend both to have time and to avoid any launch day catastrophes.

edited 29th Jul '15 2:08:29 PM by Fighteer

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Quag15 Since: Mar, 2012
#107: Jul 29th 2015 at 2:25:29 PM

I've currently updated to Windows 8.1 (I had it previously, but I had an issue with my computer and it had gone 'back to basics', so to speak) and I'm doing some more updates. What should I do next? (If the answer to the question is somewhere in this thread, can someone link it to me?)

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#108: Jul 29th 2015 at 3:10:06 PM

I'm waiting for a couple days too.

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Inhopelessguy Since: Apr, 2011
#109: Jul 29th 2015 at 3:21:21 PM

~Quag15papa. You should install basically all the updates. Eventually, a tiny Windows logo icon in your taskbar will appear, and you can reserve Windows 10 then, for a future rollout.

Re: Windows 10. I've decided to bypass Windows Update and force-install it from the Windows 10 tool on the Microsoft site. I've currently passed through the Download, Preparing, Licence Agreement, and am now on the Updates stage. I'll hopefully make it through on the other side.

edited 29th Jul '15 3:22:46 PM by Inhopelessguy

Inhopelessguy Since: Apr, 2011
#110: Jul 29th 2015 at 3:23:24 PM

Because tvtropes hates it when you edit in a tag.

~Quag15-papa.

Quag15 Since: Mar, 2012
#111: Jul 29th 2015 at 3:24:54 PM

Hmmm, I do seem to recall an icon appearing in the taskbar before things went 'back to basics'. I'll do the necessary updates, then. Thank you, Hope-son.smile[tup]

Inhopelessguy Since: Apr, 2011
#112: Jul 29th 2015 at 4:04:53 PM

Totes welcs.

Okay, installing Windows 10 OS right now. Seems to be going well so far. But it's at 3%.

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#113: Jul 29th 2015 at 4:14:02 PM

OK, had a bit of an uphill struggle to get my GPU drivers installed, but it's all done now.

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Inhopelessguy Since: Apr, 2011
#114: Jul 29th 2015 at 4:33:24 PM

It's upgrading now.

"Sit back and relax".

Sure thing, Microsoft!

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Rosvo1 Since: Aug, 2009
#115: Jul 29th 2015 at 6:16:52 PM

I have installed it and it works pretty well.

SgtRicko Since: Jul, 2009
#116: Jul 29th 2015 at 7:25:15 PM

10 Reasons Gamers Will Love Windows 10

But should gamers upgrade right away? To break that down and explore some of the less well-known angles, I spoke with Stardock CEO (and Windows insider) Brad Wardell, the guy behind recent PC games like Galactic Civilizations III and Sorcerer King, as well as up and comers Offworld Trading Company, Ashes of the Singularity and Servo. Here's what he told me.

The number one reason gamers should consider Windows 10

Direct X is how games talk to your computer, the crucial "application programming interface" that rests like a byzantine traffic signal between the way a studio wants a game to look and play and the hardware under the hood. Direct X has been with us since Windows 95, and Wardell says Direct X 12, the dozenth iteration of the toolset, is as crucial a rethink as Windows 95 itself was when it debuted two decades ago.

"Direct X 11 and before were all made before we had multicore CP Us," say Wardell. "So at the end of the day, all your games were talking to your video card via one core." That, for modern CP Us now readily sporting four, six or eight cores, creates an enormous bottleneck. However fast your video card might be, that single-core limitation means games often wind up log-jammed by the CPU. It's a head-scratcher Wardell says Microsoft's finally solved with Direct X 12.

"In Direct X 12, every single one of your cores can talk to your graphics card simultaneously," says Wardell. "So in our benchmarks, going from Direct X 11-optimized games, we're seeing between 85% and 300% performance boosts." Those kinds of leaps, any way you want to slice them, are huge.

Mind you, the game has to be written for Direct X 12, something you won't see much of as Windows 10 launches. In fact Wardell believes his upcoming Kurzweilian homage, Ashes of the Singularity, a real-time strategy game and potential genre-upender that can juggle thousands of units simultaneously, will be the first. It's due to be playable via Steam Early Access next month (It's also, incidentally, the first game with a Direct X 12 benchmark, adds Wardell.)

But it'll likely have company very soon. Wardell says it's "not hard" to go to Direct X 12, and that his developers made the shift with relative ease. "These high-end games, like Unreal Engine or Cry Engine, you know, your first-person shooters and such, they will probably have Direct X 12 versions very shortly. And when they arrive, we're talking about a pretty huge, instantaneous performance boost."

The older your system, the more Direct X 12 matters

It sounds counterintuitive, but Wardell told me the performance gains with Direct X 12 will be greater the slower your CPU is. That, to put it simply, is just a reflection of how big a deal activating all those idle cores turns out to be.

"The older your box, the better Windows 10 is," says Wardell. "So if you have like a Core i5 [Intel's mid-range CPU series] with a decent video card, you'll actually see a bigger gain than if you have some monster Core i7 high-end CPU."

Again, the game has to be Direct X 12 aware to benefit, but it's a fascinating, hugely ironic Windows 10 wrinkle that its chief beneficiaries may be gamers running older multicore hardware.

There's a lot more to the article, such as how if you're overclocking your system you might want to reconfigure your CPU resource consumption to avoid overheating and power drainage, or handles windowed gaming better than previous iterations.

Inhopelessguy Since: Apr, 2011
#117: Jul 30th 2015 at 4:36:37 AM

Well, it installed successfully! It was as if I had always had Windows 10.

I played one game (Blur) and somehow managed to get a good extra 5 fps. The rest of the OS is smooth, but sometimes a little jittery. The Store is broken for me, but I could probably fix that somehow.

edited 30th Jul '15 4:37:04 AM by Inhopelessguy

Cozzer Since: Mar, 2015
#118: Jul 30th 2015 at 5:06:45 AM

Hmm... I'll wait another while then I might give Windows 10 a try on my desktop.

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#119: Jul 30th 2015 at 5:11:18 AM

OK, so I've had to reinstall some of my security software but it seems to be OK.

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#120: Jul 30th 2015 at 5:26:56 AM

My GeForce drivers updated to the Win10 compatible version already, as did my antivirus. I guess I'm just waiting for my turn to come up in the download queue.

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#121: Jul 30th 2015 at 5:28:55 AM

I downloaded Windows 10, got my divers up to speed, and everything seems to run smoothly so far.

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#122: Jul 30th 2015 at 6:17:47 AM

Does anyone know how to set a preferred Wi Fi network? Since my PC keeps trying to connect to a commercial network rather than my home one each time it boots.

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#123: Jul 30th 2015 at 7:30:06 AM

Did you tick off the box that says "connect automatically"?

For my upgrade experience, it was kinda smooth. I didn't want to wait for the rollout, so I downloaded the installer from Microsoft's site. It downloaded the necessary files and then started to install the files. This took about 30 minutes to an hour. After that, it asked me to customize a few settings like default apps, permissions, etc.

Desktop boots up, but naturally things are a tad sluggish due to missing updates. Tried to install the Nvidia drivers for Windows 10, but it failed the first time. I got the latest updates for the OS, rebooted, installed the video drivers I downloaded, rebooted again, and now everything runs smooth. All my programs and games run with zero issues. The upgrade was pretty much painless and wasn't riddled with bugs like everyone feared, but eh, YMMV.

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#124: Jul 30th 2015 at 7:37:29 AM

I checked the "connect automatically" box on the home network and never told it to connect to the hotspot.

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#125: Jul 30th 2015 at 7:39:31 AM

So Solitaire is now Freemium.

*frustrated sigh*

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