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Deadlock Clock: Oct 11th 2014 at 11:59:00 PM
zoop Since: Aug, 2014
#1: Sep 7th 2014 at 8:39:44 PM

The description is all over the map. It starts out well enough: 'You present a pair of problems with a plan as if the problems are of equal importance. The first problem is relatively minor, and is explained in unwarranted detail. The second problem is so much simpler and more serious that the first problem seems like a silly thing to worry about: "I Broke a Nail. Oh, also, I have terminal cancer."' If they had stopped there, this would have been a perfectly good trope.

The problem is that the description then goes on to list about 2 or 3 unrelated things, such as "If I had bacon, I could have bacon and eggs. If I had eggs" and that it overlaps with I Would Say If I Could Say and Bread, Eggs, Milk, Squick, which are so different from each other, I don't know how a trope could overlap with both of them.

Predictably, the examples are all over the map as well. I think the description needs to be reworked, and the listed examples reviewed. If there are other legitimate tropes being described on this page, then we need to figure out if they're unique tropes or duplicates of existing ones, and move the examples appropriately.

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#2: Sep 7th 2014 at 9:43:37 PM

Good grief. Those other two tropes are not related at all. They certainly aren't a part of it.

Excellent catch. Thank you. This needs a lot of work.

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#3: Sep 7th 2014 at 9:55:51 PM

It appears to me that the bulk of the on-page examples are of the "If I had bacon" type, and not what it initially described. I have a feeling this page is heading towards a split, unless we actually have a proper page for those.

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#4: Sep 7th 2014 at 10:06:53 PM

Most of the "If I had bacon..." types are on I Would Say If I Could Say, although, according to the description on that page ("...a common expression is very appropriate to the situation at hand... but not for them, since they can no longer use it without it being technically incorrect or highly ironic...") they don't fit there, either...

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#5: Sep 8th 2014 at 3:56:36 AM

I think maybe the first of the Red Dwarf examples is an actual overlap, and maybe the second, although I think they're kind of maybe not I Would Say If I Could Say. I'm very certain that it could perhaps maybe be so. Depends on how wide it is. The third there is just following the pattern of its own joke.

But yeah, two different tropes. The first is about a severe contrast between two dilemmas. The second is about two cumulative dilemmas, which could potentially overlap with I Would Say If I Could Say.

Also, Maddy's got an example on I Would Say If I Could Say...

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zoop Since: Aug, 2014
#6: Sep 8th 2014 at 9:18:50 AM

Also, some of the examples are duplicates of examples on the Worrying for the Wrong Reason page - and seem to simply be examples of that trope. Such as the Butch Cassidy And The Sundance Kid example.

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#8: Oct 13th 2014 at 7:25:37 AM

Clock's up; locking for inactivity.

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#9: Oct 15th 2014 at 6:27:25 PM

It seems to me that it is somewhat related to Bread Eggs Milk Squik, because they both have to do with comparing something normal with something unusual or bad, although I don't get how it remotely relates to this whole "if I had bacon" thing.

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