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edvedd Darling. from At the boutique, dear. Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
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#8952: Oct 8th 2015 at 1:45:47 AM

Never played a Shantae game before. Are they any good?
The games aren't groundbreaking or anything, but they're pretty charming and fun, with some good music to boot. If you have a 3DS, you can get all of the currently released Shantae games on that system.

edited 8th Oct '15 1:46:20 AM by Customer

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#8953: Oct 8th 2015 at 2:24:53 AM

Are they long or hard to complete?

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Malco from the Gungeon Since: Oct, 2015
#8954: Oct 8th 2015 at 3:09:17 AM

They tend to be 3-5 hour metroidvanias each, barring glitches used to bypass portions of the games. They are not particularly difficult.

The bosses tend to be the types with HP counts (like Metroid) instead of the "wait to become vulnerable then hit 3x" bosses (like Donkey Kong Country).

Pirate's Curse takes longer because it doesn't have budget problems unlike Risky's Revenge.

In addition to 3DS and Wii U, both Risky's Revenge and Pirate's Curse are on PC. As far as I know only Risky's Revenge is on iOS.

As Shantae has a prominent history with Nintendo consoles, there's a chance she can make it in Smash. cool

edited 8th Oct '15 3:14:01 AM by Malco

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#8955: Oct 8th 2015 at 3:19:40 AM

I'm not counting on it, but I'm not denying it'd be pretty sweet if she defied the odds and made it.

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EpicBleye drunk bunny from her bed being very eepy Since: Sep, 2014 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
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#8956: Oct 8th 2015 at 5:15:45 AM

I'm really hoping she gets in. Her personality and style are too good to be kept out of smash.

In regards to the Shantae games, I've only played the original. It's really fun, but the limitations of it being on the Gameboy Color are very apparent.

I've heard Risky's Revenge and Pirate's Curse solve those problems though! So when I finish Persona 4 I'm moving right on to those games.

edited 8th Oct '15 5:17:08 AM by EpicBleye

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#8957: Oct 8th 2015 at 5:40:47 AM

Maybe I should finally cave in and get Pirate's Curse on the Wii U.

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#8958: Oct 8th 2015 at 5:44:02 AM

Yes. Yes you should.

I'll get it on the 3DS. I'll have more time to play it that way, and it won't end up like Earthbound has. I don't have much time on my Wii U anymore because I'm on campus all day. So I have little time to play Earthbound.

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#8959: Oct 8th 2015 at 5:45:56 AM

[up]I just play consoles more than handhelds. Problem is is that Smash Wii U takes up about 90% of my gaming time.

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#8960: Oct 8th 2015 at 5:59:25 AM

Yeah, I highly recommend it. The first was a blast to play, even with some srs flaws, so I can only imagine it being even more fun to play without those limitations.

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#8961: Oct 8th 2015 at 6:05:19 AM

Pirate's Curse and Shovel Knight are two of the three indie games I want to buy (the third being FNAF 1)

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#8962: Oct 8th 2015 at 6:07:57 AM

I highly, highly recommend Shovel Knight. It was one of the most fun games I've played in a long while, and I loved every minute of it (even if the levels can be a bit frustrating at times!).

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#8963: Oct 8th 2015 at 6:08:21 AM

The link from the last page is blocked where I am, can someone tell me what's going on with King K. Rool?

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#8964: Oct 8th 2015 at 6:10:42 AM

K. Rool may or may not be related to the "leaks" that may or may not have been posted from an official twitter that may or may not have been relating to Smash.

So it's a pretty small grain of salt, but basically people think that one of the official people says that people should be hyped in the coming days because of a big announcement, and that it isn't Shantae, Shovel Knight, or Wolf. I'll just copy-paste what the thing said.. it'll be easier.

    The "Leaks" 
Considering everything has been thrown into a tizzy of misinformation by the usual potpourri of crazies and skeptics, I figured I'd throw together a simple fact sheet to help clear up confusion in this thread.

What Happened:

—Roger tweeted first, late on Oct. 5, that he received "exciting Nintendo news." He later elaborated that the news was "an 8-9 on a hype scale," "would be coming in the next two weeks," and "we'd know when we see it." He does not mention Smash, but never says it is not Smash-related.

—Stealth tweets later the next morning, saying he knows the next Smash character, that it's coming "soon," clarified as "next two weeks" as well. He says this is a Nintendo newcomer that he doesn't think "won the ballot," but is "the character who makes a whole lot of sense for a whole lot of reasons." He elaborates that this character is "a big deal," is not "a clone or a disappointment" or "shocking." He refuses to comment on the character's gender.

—Stealth made tweets saying "If the character were Shantae, Shovel Knight or Wolf, I'd have hung myself by now," as well as that "the character would have eventually made it into Smash." He later deleted both comments.

—The same afternoon, The Real Zef comments that "Smash is about to make social media go insane" and to "get hype because everyone's about to be happy." He comments that "he hopes it doesn't leak so people can go insane," and that "Stealth isn't the only one who knows about this." He says that "he doesn't think this character won the ballot," but rather than because of the character's identity, he says it's because "otherwise they wouldn't be ready just two weeks after it closed."

—Before clamming up, Zef clarifies that "he doesn't think it can leak unless the person with the info decides to spill" and that all he can say on the matter is "connections with connections." Of note, another guy, Aversy_Tweets, says "he knows and knows Roger knows," but is confident the latter will keep quiet.

—Later still, Roger gets exasperated with fanatics harassing him on Twitter just because of him saying "Cool Nintendo news in two or so weeks," saying "It's cool news, mind you, but the hype drought has made people crazy."

—He makes a facetious post saying "OMG ROGER KNOWS ALL BALLOT WINNERS AND ISN'T TELLING," saying that if he did, that would be a 10/10 for hype. In the process, he favorites a bunch of stuff from Stealth and Zef, who are also laughing at the fan overreaction online.

—All the while, head Smashboards mod Warchamp is making posts to Roger and Stealth, making fun of the fanatics. His jokes are mostly Inkling-related..."HE SAID DROUGHT, DROUGHT = NO WATER, WATER = INKLINGS!"

The Participants:

—Roger worked at Nintendo years ago and runs the Japan Time podcast. He has had his roots in the gaming industry for a long time now, and has undoubtedly made a handful of connections along the way. I've only seen a few of his videos, but Roger is a big fan of Lanky Kong (passively supports "DK Rep" getting in the game), and people have been saying he's a big Inklings fan too (which I haven't heard a source for, but can buy).

—Stealth is a "Video Game Enthusiast" who has made legitimate statements before, about occurrences at a private Splatoon event he got to attend with other big game media names. I don't have the source in front of me, but apparently he spilled that there would be a surprise Nintendo Direct early last April, which there was despite no expectation of one. He has trolled Game FA Qs before under the name of RP Grinder, and has posted on Twitter that he voted for "K. Rool, Inklings, Isaac, Malo and Andy."

—I have no idea who this Zef guy is. He has tweeted that "he has never trolled about Smash before if it makes people feel better," but has no credibility to his name that I know of. No idea who he supports

—No idea about this Averys_Tweets guy.

—Warchamp was one of the first people to have access to the ESRB leaked videos before they went viral.

The Bull****:

—LOL ROGER SED IT WUZNT BOUT SMASH: False. He said nothing one way or the other, other than that "the news wasn't Skull Kid getting revealed for HW." Gullible people fell into the trap of Poe's Law in reading his tweet about the Smash fanatics who expect him to be omnipotent where the Smash ballot is concerned.

—LOL STEALTH PIGGIE BAKKED ROGER AND IZ JUST A RANDO TROLL: It is true that Stealth's tweets came after Roger's initial ones about having 8-9 hype-scale news. However, not only were Roger's tweets not some big thing to piggyback off of at the time (this only really blew up after I posted about it in here), but Roger and Stealth seem to be on friendly terms, openly talking about Japan Time and TV Shows on the social network, as well as favoriting each other's stuff. Whether you question his credibility, Stealth is not just some random guy.

—LOL STEALTH HATES K. ROOL SO NO CHANCE IS THIS HIM: False. Stealth said he voted for K. Rool, has defended his costume on Game FA Qs and has said that "K. Rool and Isaac are needed to save Smash DLC."

Other Stuff:

—I don't know whether he's trolling here or has changed his opinion since then, but in a thread asking if a list of 5 characters including K. Rool were Top 5 Most Wanted, he said no to all except Isaac. If he's serious, then K. Rool isn't ruled out in his mind by the "this character probably didn't win." None of the tweets I've found from him thus far clarify whether he feels K. Rool is a character who would "eventually get into Smash."

—Warchamp's joking about the Inklings makes me think...if he and all these guys have legitimate info and he's just casually throwing that name around, it's not them. If he were doing this and Inklings was the character, the Nintendo Ninjas would be on him like white on rice.

Will add onto this later if more stuff comes up. I think it's pretty comprehensive as it stands, and I hope it gives people the clarity they need to not run around making s*** up

edited 8th Oct '15 6:13:00 AM by EpicBleye

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#8965: Oct 8th 2015 at 7:12:21 AM

I only linked to the K. Rool thread because that's where I found the list of what was going on. So take any "omg K. Rool happening 4 shurz" with a grain of salt.

Or more than a grain, depending on your preference.

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#8966: Oct 8th 2015 at 7:12:24 AM

I really like Pirate's Curse. But it makes me worried about Half Genie Hero, because I thought the pirate tools were way more fun than the dances were in Risky's Revenge.

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Malco from the Gungeon Since: Oct, 2015
#8967: Oct 8th 2015 at 7:29:32 AM

Risky will be playable in 1/2 Genie Hero, she'll have the pirate stuff. I sure hope Shantae has other gimmicks though to make up for the "loss" of the pirate stuff since Pirate's Curse.

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#8969: Oct 8th 2015 at 8:35:24 AM

It is kind of sad that Stealth things Wolf, Shovel Knight and Shantae are worth "I'll kill myself if they get in the game" comments.

I guess if you're not pissing off three fandoms at once, you're not worthy of being a news source for Smash.

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#8970: Oct 8th 2015 at 8:37:33 AM

Just a joke. Probably wants to have some fun with people.

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#8971: Oct 8th 2015 at 8:38:43 AM

Also, I believe his comments were that of "if one of the three are the big announcement since they're already pretty much guaranteed."

Keybreak Since: Apr, 2010
#8972: Oct 8th 2015 at 8:39:18 AM

Putting in FOUR fighters at once?

I wouldn't bet on that.

edited 8th Oct '15 8:39:26 AM by Keybreak

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#8974: Oct 8th 2015 at 8:51:37 AM

I don't think he'd seriously hang himself if those characters were announced. That much should be obvious.

But if that's supposed to be a hilarious statement, then maybe the fandom needs some self-examination.

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#8975: Oct 8th 2015 at 12:53:12 PM

Yeah, no thanks. I'll just wait until Nintendo themselves says something instead of getting hyped by some comments some guy made.

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