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Crinias from The Bleak Academy Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Mu
#1: Jul 28th 2014 at 9:57:05 AM

As discussed elsewhere, Harry Potter and the Natural 20 is the kind of fanfic that deserves its own thread to discuss it.

Between the great humor and excellent story, this is probably one of the better Harry Potter fics out there, and certainly one of the best crossovers.

TheNobody Since: Jan, 2011
#2: Jul 28th 2014 at 10:00:11 AM

I like it better than that Rationality story, truth be told.

Rather than smart, I'd prefer to be wise. It would let me be silly more often.
BlueNinja0 The Mod with the Migraine from Taking a left at Albuquerque Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
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#3: Jul 28th 2014 at 10:33:54 AM

[up] Greatly. There's a larger sense of realism to it. And the geek humor quotient is incredibly high. grin

That’s the epitome of privilege right there, not considering armed nazis a threat to your life. - Silasw
CDRW Since: May, 2016
#4: Jul 28th 2014 at 11:22:32 AM

I wonder where the story is going now. The part with Boccab had some interesting worldbuilding, but it seemed a little inconsistent. He's aware of the other worlds and magic, but I don't really see how it fits with his strict PC/NPC worldview.

demarquis Who Am I? from Hell, USA Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Buried in snow, waiting for spring
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#5: Jul 28th 2014 at 1:12:25 PM

How long before he runs into his mother?

"We learn from history that we do not learn from history."
Crinias from The Bleak Academy Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Mu
#6: Jul 28th 2014 at 2:45:05 PM

[up][up][up] I wouldn't say realism, but I think I understand what you mean. It feels as though it takes the context of both Harry Potter and D&D, and does its own thing without having to twist too much about either universe.

Perhaps this is a bit cynical, but it's rare to find HP fics in which the characters stay so close to their canon incarnations.

jdj42 Since: Oct, 2012
#7: Aug 1st 2014 at 9:43:59 AM

TONIGHT IS THE NIGHT.

The world will look up and shout "Save us", and I'll look down and whisper "Too bad, Waluigi Time" Vote Loki 2016
Unknownlight Since: Aug, 2009
#8: Aug 1st 2014 at 12:30:47 PM

I like this story, but I thought Book 1 was better than Book 2, and so far—while I still enjoy it, and it admittedly has barely begun—I'm liking Book 3 even less. I hope this story is able to keep up its quality.

CDRW Since: May, 2016
#9: Aug 3rd 2014 at 12:47:50 PM

Ooh, I liked this update.

demarquis Who Am I? from Hell, USA Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Buried in snow, waiting for spring
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#10: Aug 3rd 2014 at 1:28:57 PM

Courtesy link

"We learn from history that we do not learn from history."
LogicDragon Somewhat Anomalous Since: Dec, 2011 Relationship Status: Get out of here, STALKER
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#11: Aug 5th 2014 at 1:10:31 PM

I think this update redeemed Save-or-Die for me. It was looking like it would carry on down the path of overly-aggressive weirdness and losing the humour, but Milo's munchkin pissing contest with Relkin was hilarious.

I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that.
jdj42 Since: Oct, 2012
#12: Aug 8th 2014 at 6:05:01 PM

Update released.

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demarquis Who Am I? from Hell, USA Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Buried in snow, waiting for spring
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#13: Aug 8th 2014 at 6:22:52 PM

Link

"We learn from history that we do not learn from history."
Ever9 from Europe Since: Jul, 2011
#14: Aug 11th 2014 at 5:01:36 PM

I miss Fiona. :(

edited 11th Aug '14 5:01:47 PM by Ever9

Crinias from The Bleak Academy Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Mu
#15: Aug 11th 2014 at 6:05:39 PM

Who knows, she might show up again. Even if she doesn't, she had a pretty good run.

demarquis Who Am I? from Hell, USA Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Buried in snow, waiting for spring
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#16: Aug 11th 2014 at 7:07:18 PM

I feel pretty certain that she will indeed show up again. After all, she still has her walkman!

"We learn from history that we do not learn from history."
jdj42 Since: Oct, 2012
#17: Aug 23rd 2014 at 9:25:43 AM

New chapter! [1]

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TheNobody Since: Jan, 2011
#18: Aug 23rd 2014 at 1:10:37 PM

I wonder how large would Milo's clan be by the end of the arc. And how would it affect him if/when some of them get killed.

Rather than smart, I'd prefer to be wise. It would let me be silly more often.
Know-age Hmmm... Since: May, 2010
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#19: Aug 24th 2014 at 9:17:31 AM

I stopped reading this. The new story just isn't holing my interest for whatever reason.

Demarquis Who Am I? from Hell, USA Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Buried in snow, waiting for spring
Who Am I?
#20: Aug 24th 2014 at 9:02:22 PM

He's not a fish out of water anymore, which certainly changes the tone. I'm giving it until they get into the city we find out how they intend to go about toppling Bellatrix.

"We learn from history that we do not learn from history."
jdj42 Since: Oct, 2012
#21: Aug 30th 2014 at 7:25:22 AM

Update![1]

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demarquis Who Am I? from Hell, USA Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Buried in snow, waiting for spring
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#22: Sep 2nd 2014 at 11:29:42 AM

This backstory thing is confusing. And their way of sneaking into the city seems too easy.

"We learn from history that we do not learn from history."
Crinias from The Bleak Academy Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Mu
#23: Sep 6th 2014 at 7:28:53 PM

New chapter's up.

[up] We're talking about a world that runs strictly under a 3.5 D&D Rules As Written context, with some Theoretical Optimization thrown in - tactics like the ones Milo is pulling would never work under a sane DM, but since the story assumes there's no such thing, it's ok. It's a very binary sort of thing: in direct conflict, you either curb-stomp the opposition or are curb-stomped yourself. It's that sort of gameplay, I'm afraid.

Personally, I'm more disbelieving one or two of the things Bellatrix is pulling. No, not how easy she got to power - if you have an Outside-Context Villain, that sort of rapid rise to power is not entirely unexpected. Because of how D&D worlds work, those sort of tyrants have only limited success at any time - they last relatively little in a historical context, months or years at best before being killed or overthrown by someone else. The really successful villains in D&D are never discovered as such, are never captured, or become higher beings like evil gods, devils or demons.

No, the thing I find really strange about this last chapter is that obtaining artifacts in D&D like the Philosopher's Stone is really goddamn difficult. It makes perfect sense for Bellatrix to want to obtain a lot of them and send them back home, but finding artifacts is the sort of thing entire campaigns can be based on. Even the most 'mundane' of artifacts has not only great power and unique abilities, but also priceless value. At least, that's the theory. I can buy that she mind-controlled enough people that she'd eventually find some of them, but dozens? Sounds really heavy. Looking forward to the next update.

maxwellelvis Mad Scientist Wannabe from undisclosed location Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: In my bunk
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#24: Sep 6th 2014 at 8:12:19 PM

To be a bit meta, Le Strange HAS to have the upper hand at this point, otherwise it's not very interesting. I'm sure later it'll be explained HOW she got her mitts on more Stones.

Of course, don't you know anything about ALCHEMY?!- Twin clones of Ivan the Great
demarquis Who Am I? from Hell, USA Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Buried in snow, waiting for spring
Who Am I?
#25: Sep 7th 2014 at 5:31:03 AM

As for the Sorcerers Stones, I imagine it helps Beatrix that she doesnt care about the attrition rate of the people obtaining them for her.

"We learn from history that we do not learn from history."

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