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Darthwyn Ace Pilot from The void Since: Feb, 2016 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
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#676: May 30th 2017 at 5:15:48 PM

Was it ever explained what compelled Jun to suggest that Jin goes and see his grandfather if anything happened to her?

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#678: May 30th 2017 at 6:19:11 PM

Yeah bad plot. Jun was meant to be Incurrptable Pure Pureness. Right? Dislikes deception. In the animated film hates Heihachi's nizitche ideals. So she tells her son to find him. What?

edited 30th May '17 7:10:00 PM by tsstevens

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PhoenixAct Since: Feb, 2011
#679: May 30th 2017 at 6:32:55 PM

Maybe Jin just misinterpreted and got the wrong grandfather?tongue

I mean, the Kazama family seem to have some supernatural nonsense of their own going on; that the writers seemingly refuse to explain at all.

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Hashil Since: Aug, 2010
#680: May 30th 2017 at 6:35:59 PM

The only other reason I could think of is pragmatism. He did grow up rich and well taken care of.

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#681: May 30th 2017 at 6:41:07 PM

Or in the face of Ogre; Jun thought that the only person capable of training Jin to a state where he could stand against Ogre is just Heihachi. At that point, Jun would at least forego goodness. I mean, who else is the uber martial artist capable of training Jin?

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#682: May 30th 2017 at 6:52:15 PM

The answer to that might well be...hmmm, Unknown.

She'd do it I think. Angel? Asuka's sensei? Michelle or Lei if Jun knowns them. Nina if she knows her.

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PhoenixAct Since: Feb, 2011
#683: May 30th 2017 at 6:54:44 PM

The same people who trained her? I mean, she uses "Kazama-style martial arts", so presumably that's a family thing.

Meh, I just feel like the whole Kazama thing was a missed opportunity; especially after Asuka's introduction in 5.

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Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#684: May 30th 2017 at 7:05:52 PM

ho else is the uber martial artist capable of training Jin?

She participated in a tournament full of them! [lol]

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#685: May 30th 2017 at 7:14:53 PM

Which Heihachi won. Therefore he was the strongest and had the best chance for Jin's survival. If he's trained by someone softer but weaker, Jin will die when he demands rematch against Ogre.

Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#686: May 30th 2017 at 7:21:13 PM

See while I'm not sure about the exact rules of the tournament, I don't think Heihachi genuinely faced every single combatant and beat each and every one of them. Even if he did, that doesn't necessarily mean that the others suck.

Granted there are some wild cards in there - including a ninja, a cyborg, and a bear, none of whom are guaranteed to be good martial arts teachers. But even so Jun still had better options than the grandfather who threw her husband off a cliff when he was 8 years old.

edited 30th May '17 8:01:02 PM by Soble

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#687: May 30th 2017 at 7:46:37 PM

I don't know. Even though the plot treats him like a joke now, Paul fought Heihachi to a draw, and beat the first incarnation of Ogre (the one who killed a number of fighters, Jun included).

So while I can kinda see the logic of Heihachi being the biggest badass in a town full of badasses, I'm not sure if he could be called the only one.

My theory: Jun secretly hated her own son. Gotta get rid of that Devil Gene right?

By the way, was that reporter dude supposed to be anyone important? Or was he just meant as a sort of viewpoint character for the story mode?

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Malco from the Gungeon Since: Oct, 2015
#688: May 30th 2017 at 7:55:57 PM

[up][up] Depends if Jun knew that Heihachi was a jerk, which I doubt she does.

"Ah well, so your father is missing, and his father is the only family I know... he might be a good guy."

edited 30th May '17 7:56:54 PM by Malco

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#689: May 30th 2017 at 8:38:23 PM

I truly want the drugs Jun was on when she thought that was a good idea.

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Emperordaein Grant us eyes from Australia Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Hugging my pillow
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#690: May 31st 2017 at 5:31:03 AM

So I saw the Bonus Boss of the game. And... Well...

So you know Shin Akuma, right? How about a Shin Akuma that can throw triple Shakanetsu Hadoukens, and has invincible teleports that put his Super Turbo teleports to shame in terms of speed? The ONLY mercy you get is playing as Devil Kazuya in full Devil Mode. And even then, you might have to fight him with other characters at some point.

A corpse should be left well enough alone...
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#691: May 31st 2017 at 9:03:58 AM

I want to see him fight the grandpa from Dead or Alive.

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#692: May 31st 2017 at 9:24:57 AM

wild mass guess all the popular 3d Fighters plus street Fighter are in the same world.wild mass guess

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Hashil Since: Aug, 2010
#693: May 31st 2017 at 9:50:00 AM

I still can't can't believe that they took a guest fighter as a deathly serious addition to the storyline.

How the hell is that going to work in the future when they don't have the rights to Akuma any more?

edited 31st May '17 9:50:46 AM by Hashil

Malco from the Gungeon Since: Oct, 2015
#694: May 31st 2017 at 10:13:51 AM

Canon Discontinuity or Retcon or just being plain vague? They can always say, a mysterious fighter attacked Kazuya or stuff. Then the visual aids shows the outline of something obscured in fog.

Game's out in Japan by the way, and the tech (?) is coming in...
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MikeBreezy92 Storm King Since: Dec, 2011 Relationship Status: Noddin' my head like yeah
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#695: May 31st 2017 at 12:38:04 PM

For those SF players looking to get into Tekken, I've made a video comparing the series to Tekken help break down Tekken for the newcomers https://youtu.be/0dHDmqX7QgI

Hopefully this would be a lot of help for those trying to learn the game this go around or for those who aren't but are curious about the deeper mechanics in both games outside of "One's 2D and One's 3D"

youtube.com/Fire Trainer 92
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#696: Jun 1st 2017 at 9:01:44 AM

Watched some character endings:

Paul is more of a Butt-Monkey than ever, what with being booed after he legitimately beats Panda, Lucky Chloe is so annoying I'm thinking they just ran with the massive backlash against her character, and Eliza is more narcoleptic than ever, though it seems she might actually be connected to Lili's family in some way since she keeps trying to hint at something, but falls asleep before she can. Maybe the Rocheforts have demonic ancestry.

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Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#697: Jun 1st 2017 at 12:47:26 PM

This might be the best Tekken character ending I've ever seen.

I love how animated Lili is here.

     

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PhoenixAct Since: Feb, 2011
#698: Jun 1st 2017 at 1:21:53 PM

So Lily is moving into Asuka's house, owns the family dojo, and is planning to learn the Kazama-style martial arts...? Are we sure Lili's not actually trying make Asuka her waifu?

Now if you'll excuse me I have fanfic to write... What?

edited 1st Jun '17 1:23:35 PM by PhoenixAct

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#699: Jun 1st 2017 at 1:31:52 PM

[up]At this point it's writing itself.

My hands are moving across the keyboard, and considering I'm at work, that's not a good thing.tongue

randomdude4 Since: May, 2011
#700: Jun 1st 2017 at 1:51:27 PM

Anyone else notice that the game now refers to Leo as male? Either this is more trolling or a continuity mistake.

On another note, the character endings in general are rather disappointing. 90% of the characters are jokes now or just totally irrelevant. Namco might know how to make a good fighting game, but between this and Soul Calibur V, holy hell they don't know how to tell a story worth a damn.

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