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GrandmasterKiramidHead Master of Horror from Silent Hill Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
Master of Horror
#1: Jun 25th 2014 at 3:41:49 PM

Shane Black to co-write and direct a new Predator film

The initial report states that Shane Black and Fred Dekker are collaborating on a reboot, but Black himself has said that it will be a sequel.

Personally, I'm all for this, as Shane Black is one of my favorite writer/directors, and Fred Dekker has made some damn fine work of his own.

The Doctor is in.
SomeSortOfTroper Since: Jan, 2001
#2: Jun 25th 2014 at 4:35:04 PM

They did it, they did it, it took 27 years but they finally got Shane Black to contribute to a Predator script.

I hope it is a sequel rather than a reboot because the reboot is unnecessary and the nature of the films means that doing anything that requires you to note that it is a reboot involves actively straining to crap over points from the other movies. There's no boggy continuity nor no reviled canon details that need to go. The Predator aliens are mysterious and we gain only glimpses into their nature and that's the entire appeal so nothing should be invented that requires clearing a forest to make room for it. At most, you simply have to leave the A.v.P. comics out of it- fine by me, I barely even know what to call them.

edited 25th Jun '14 4:41:47 PM by SomeSortOfTroper

Whowho Since: May, 2012
#3: Jun 25th 2014 at 4:54:07 PM

I always thought that the only thing the series needed was innovation and new interpretations of what can be done with the strong core idea. Shane saying that he'd rather move forward than restart sounds like exactly what I wanted to hear.

Predators for me was a step in the right direction. Exploring how the hunt can take place in new ways, and adding in a new physiological thriller aspect by having the Predators purposefully wound people and play mind games.

If I was to say where I wanted the next instalment to go, I would like to see what humans can actually do when they attempt to take the hunt to the predators. A major theme in each film is humans, with great effort, turning the tide of the hunt so that the hunter becomes the hunter.

And I think it could be an interesting story now. Moby Dick the thing and keep the struggle interesting by showing that if the humans do have the logistical advantage, they may not have the psychological one. Such a plot line is a good excuse to get multiple characters from previous films back together. With Adrian Brody and Michelle Rodriguez's characters having a ship now it's easy enough for them to get back to Earth, and go where ever, and with the technology to even the playing field at hand. And you just know Arnold Schwarzenegger would be keen to return. Danny Glover I couldn't really guess. And I'm not sure they'd be much interest for Sanaa Lathan's character from Av P to return.

KJMackley Since: Jan, 2001
#4: Jun 25th 2014 at 5:53:47 PM

One main issue that plagues any Predator story is that the original movie was simply just a premise that had no answers. They were able to piece together who they were up against but nothing else, the final shot was Arnold covered in what looked like nuclear fallout and a look in his eyes that said "What the hell just happened?"

So whenever you try to give answers to questions that powerful there is bound to be some disappointment.

Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#5: Jun 25th 2014 at 6:43:01 PM

What I'd really like seeing would be a Predator movie set in their earlier visits to Earth. In Predators they find a bunch of Samurai armors and swords, and the token Yakuza of the crew wonders for how much time they've been doing this.

My mind instantly jumped to the predators abducting a Scottish Highlander, a Samurai, A Viking, A Native American warrior, an African tribesman and a Mongolian and them having to square off against the assorted Predator using only their ancient tech.

"All you Fascists bound to lose."
Whowho Since: May, 2012
#6: Jun 25th 2014 at 8:29:57 PM

I'd watch that, if, and only if, the language barrier wasn't over come and it was a dialogue light movie about the characters having to trust people they couldn't even understand.

One of them would have to have translation convention apply to them though for an audience surrogate. But I guess that sort of spoils that they'll be the final girl. Unless the writers have balls the size of space hoppers and kill off the audience surrogate in the third act and a foreign character becomes the final girl.

Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#7: Jun 25th 2014 at 9:20:41 PM

Though the Viking and the Highlander could speak the same language. Vikings did trade/war with Scotland an awful lot, it's not unlikely that a Viking would know how to speak his language or vice-versa.

"All you Fascists bound to lose."
Whowho Since: May, 2012
#8: Jun 25th 2014 at 9:27:27 PM

I'd say have the Highlander be the audience surrogate and the Viking being antagonistic but the only person the Highlander can verbally communicate with, but have the tribesman be the final girl.

SomeSortOfTroper Since: Jan, 2001
#9: Jun 26th 2014 at 1:15:47 AM

The original Predator was an inversion of the conventional action movie of the day. Shane Black loves playing with the tropes and expectations of his films' genres. So I wonder if maybe he'll go more in that direction. Like he makes what looks like a Criminal Mind Games serial killer movie where half-way through the killer is killed and replaced by the Predator.

MarkVonLewis Since: Jun, 2010
#10: Jun 26th 2014 at 2:34:28 PM

I hope, FOR FUCKING ONCE, this Predator focuses NOT on humans but the Predator himself.

I mean, shit I can watch a ton of movies about humans. I wanna see a movie focusing exclusively on a Predator kicking ass around the galaxy.

edited 26th Jun '14 2:34:37 PM by MarkVonLewis

Whowho Since: May, 2012
#11: Jun 26th 2014 at 4:36:49 PM

That was the AvP movies.

Prowler I'm here for our date, Rose! Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
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#12: Jun 26th 2014 at 7:12:16 PM

Av P:R was the closest thing we'll get to that. Unfortunately, it was also garbage. So yeah.

Whowho Since: May, 2012
#13: Jun 26th 2014 at 8:57:49 PM

I would like to see what hollywood could do with a mute protagonist, and I would pay to see a Predator stranded in feudal Japan learning the ways of the Ronin.

GrandmasterKiramidHead Master of Horror from Silent Hill Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
Master of Horror
#14: Jun 27th 2014 at 1:44:13 AM

What I like about this is that there are so many different directions to go in. They could keep it contemporary, go into the past or future, stay earthbound, or go off planet. There are practically endless possibilities.

I had a couple of ideas of my own. One of them involved making it a subversion of the action movies of today like the original was for those of the 80s. Everything is safe, bloodless and PG-13, then *pow*, a Pred or Preds show up and things get insane. The second would be setting it entirely in space, but with an alien race of some sort being hunted. That opens up all sorts of doors, allowing for a brand new culture, tech level, and environment.

Of course, my ideas could easily be crap. [lol]

edited 27th Jun '14 1:44:22 AM by GrandmasterKiramidHead

The Doctor is in.
IndirectActiveTransport You Give Me Fever from Chicago Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
You Give Me Fever
#15: Jun 27th 2014 at 4:56:54 AM

The Predators were so completely demystified in the last movie that I have no desire to see another one. (You mean to tell me these new predators are stronger, yet you can kill one with a sword? You couldn't kill the second of the old Predators with liquid nitrogen, a desert eagle, a shot gun and dropping it off a building after severing its arm with its own weapon. Those creatures even stood up to Alien acid, apparently, but a sword can kill the new guys? An antiquated sword?)

Even on its own merits, it was a plot I could not buy. The World's Expert (on Getting Killed)? Really? At least the guys in the second movie had never yet engaged a Predator before.

edited 27th Jun '14 5:05:15 AM by IndirectActiveTransport

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JerekLaz Since: Jun, 2014
#16: Jun 27th 2014 at 1:16:16 PM

Yeah they need to make them scary again. And not just a redesign. Not just making them Klingons who you can't understand. They need to go back to being MONSTERS.

So, back to skinning humans and leaving the corpses hanging, psychologically breaking their prey etc.

I think it'd be good to see them up against the USMC (Space marines) in the future, but totally SANS aliens. Like the first parts of Aliens versus Predator 2 (Videogame) - you just found the bodies, fought nothing and then saw three dots tracking across the floor.

The uber predators just felt... well, they weren't as scary, they just seemed to obsessed with giving them gimmicky kit (The drone, the dogs, the STUPIDLY LONG WRISTBLADE!)

And I liked Predators as well. But it was never scary.

RBLyndon Since: Jan, 2012
#17: Jun 27th 2014 at 1:35:04 PM

I am a-okay with this. But just please tone down the fanservice and callbacks. I also liked Predators but it insisted too much on reminding me of the original.

MarkVonLewis Since: Jun, 2010
#18: Jun 27th 2014 at 4:12:39 PM

Or make a movie where the Predator faces a foe more powerful than it, and it engages in a deadly guerrilla war against this foe.

maxwellelvis Mad Scientist Wannabe from undisclosed location Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: In my bunk
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#19: Jun 27th 2014 at 7:38:48 PM

[up]One Alien, then. A single Alien is a horrifying, nearly unbeatable killer, a group of them is just a bunch of barely intelligent animals. I've heard of Conservation of Ninjutsu but Aliens just took it way too far. Kinda ruined the Alien as a monster, frankly.

Of course, don't you know anything about ALCHEMY?!- Twin clones of Ivan the Great
Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#20: Jun 27th 2014 at 7:48:08 PM

Perhaps the Predator could square off against an actual Eldritch Abomination in the edges of space, and the Predator, once the hunter, is now the prey. He must flee this corner of the galaxy if he wishes to remain alive.

"All you Fascists bound to lose."
LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#21: Feb 15th 2016 at 5:26:36 PM

You'll Never See Him Coming.

Interesting that both a Predator and a Alien got to be in Mortal Kombat X as DLC characters and both have new movies on the way.

TamH70 Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
#22: Feb 16th 2016 at 1:02:27 PM

Call me a heretic, but I want a straight sequel to "Predators". Adrien Brody is sadly under-rated as an action star.

Whowho Since: May, 2012
#23: Feb 19th 2016 at 9:21:03 AM

I would love a strait sequel to Predators, but in 3 (or five) movies, the franchise has never had a character return (I think?)

HextarVigar That guy from The Big House Since: Feb, 2015
That guy
#24: Feb 19th 2016 at 2:31:32 PM

Yeah, but that's mostly because each movie takes place in places pretty separated from the other locations.

edited 19th Feb '16 2:31:44 PM by HextarVigar

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TargetmasterJoe Since: May, 2013
#25: Feb 20th 2017 at 3:19:51 PM

Necro.

Meet some of the cast. And yes, The Predator will be rated R.

And from Shane Black himself regarding the PG-13 rating:

"And, just to be clear...PG-13 is for pussies. Spines bleed...a lot."

Hardcore. evil grincool


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