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Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#76: Dec 17th 2014 at 6:12:26 PM

I think the theaters acted responsibly. As much as I don't like having to react to the shouting of terrorists, I don't like the idea of a theater full of kids getting shot up on Christmas even more

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#77: Dec 17th 2014 at 6:17:41 PM

I think if North Korea or whoever these hackers are had the capacity to massacre within America, they would have done so already. North Korea's been screaming to invade for decades. They wouldn't need the excuse. This just gives them extortion power.

GoukaRyuu Since: Aug, 2012
#78: Dec 17th 2014 at 6:18:43 PM

[up][up]If I got killed supporting the right to Freedom of speech there would be worse ways to go. I'm not saying anyone should or would have to die, but this is the time to show bravery in the face of aggression instead of wetting yourself.

edited 17th Dec '14 6:18:59 PM by GoukaRyuu

washington213 Since: Jan, 2013
#79: Dec 17th 2014 at 6:45:53 PM

North Korea doesn't have the means to truly fight us. If they actually restart the war, it'd be suicide. And Kim knows it, even if his ego is bigger than his waistline.

GoukaRyuu Since: Aug, 2012
#80: Dec 17th 2014 at 7:02:35 PM

Following the example of the Alamo Draft House in Dallas, Texas I have put this on my Twitter and Facebook: If we can't watch #The Interview I want everyone of you to watch #Team America World Police Let's gather this holiday season to #mocknorthkorea

Please share this and spread the word. I want this to be a thing. If Sony and the theaters can't stand up for what is the right thing at least we all can in spirit.

NapoleonDeCheese Since: Oct, 2010
#81: Dec 17th 2014 at 7:05:31 PM

[up][up]I can see him actually trying the suicide taking as many as I can with me route if he's ever diagnosed a lethal cancer or something, though.

I wonder what would happen if Team America were released today instead of 2004

I have this theory the Kims, like so many other narrow minded idiots, have this Animated Ghetto mindset where 'animated' or 'for kids' movies and shows 'don't count', while live action movies. So that's probably why they haven't cared about Team America or South Park, but they do about this.

edited 17th Dec '14 7:09:48 PM by NapoleonDeCheese

Digifiend Since: Sep, 2009
#82: Dec 17th 2014 at 7:23:31 PM

So the film got pulled because of a terrorist threat. Is there a trope for this? It's not Vaporware - that's video games. It's not Cancelled, that's TV. But there surely has to be a suitable trope page to mention this incident?

Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#83: Dec 17th 2014 at 7:40:36 PM

If I got killed supporting the right to Freedom of speech there would be worse ways to go.

You are entitled to that, but I doubt the theater company presidents are willing to risk sacrificing innocent people to make a political point.

Nohbody "In distress", my ass. from Somewhere in Dixie Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Mu
"In distress", my ass.
#84: Dec 17th 2014 at 7:44:30 PM

Theater chains yanking the movie to prevent violence isn't government censorship.

How is a government threatening violence (if not directly) should a work be released not count as an attempt at censorship? Yeah, their ability to act on the threat is in question, but potentially dubious capability doesn't make it any less of an attempt at a government trying to suppress the release of a film.

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Lionheart0 Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
#85: Dec 17th 2014 at 7:45:55 PM

[up][up]Seriously, they're entitled to put the safety of their patrons and employees first. Because quite frankly, if they had gone forward with screening knowing about the threats and someone died, people wouldn't congratulate the theater for standing their ground.

edited 17th Dec '14 7:46:13 PM by Lionheart0

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#86: Dec 17th 2014 at 7:45:59 PM

I'd say the studio or theater should have a limited screening, but make it clear that anyone who goes, goes at their own risk. Only people who want to put their lives on the line should put themselves at risk. Sony's right to look out and reduce the potential for murder but they should also give the opportunity to resist for the people who want to.

Steve Carell's North Korea film has been scrapped. This was announced just a few hours after Carell lambasted Sony's decision on Twitter.

edited 17th Dec '14 7:47:09 PM by Tuckerscreator

HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#87: Dec 17th 2014 at 7:47:11 PM

[up][up][up] Because it's not the government that pulled the film, it's the theaters themselves.

Frankly, I think there's a lot of situations where laying down your life for free speech is appropriate, but IMO a Seth Rogen movie isn't one of them.

edited 17th Dec '14 7:47:28 PM by HamburgerTime

Nohbody "In distress", my ass. from Somewhere in Dixie Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Mu
"In distress", my ass.
#88: Dec 17th 2014 at 7:53:57 PM

I'm no fan of him myself, and I do agree that his movies are hardly worth dying for.

What I'm objecting to is that NK's threat (which was explicitly to try to prevent release of the film in question) is treated as serious in the first place, and not just ignored as yet another bout of "BEST KOREA STRONK" bluster like they've done time and time again when they wanted another food deal.

edited 17th Dec '14 7:54:59 PM by Nohbody

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GoukaRyuu Since: Aug, 2012
#89: Dec 17th 2014 at 7:55:00 PM

[up]Better than letting the real life Eric Cartman win.

Nohbody "In distress", my ass. from Somewhere in Dixie Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Mu
"In distress", my ass.
#90: Dec 17th 2014 at 7:56:41 PM

Other than knowing Cartman a) is in South Park, which was done by the same guys who did Team America: World Police, and b) he's a Grade A dick, [up] means absolutely nothing to me, as SP has never interested me. Context?

edited 17th Dec '14 7:57:16 PM by Nohbody

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stingerbrg Since: Jun, 2009
#91: Dec 17th 2014 at 7:58:37 PM

[up]x5: The people seeing that one film aren't the only ones at risk, since there's the possibility that a hypothetical attacker wouldn't restrict themselves to the people in theater 3, ignoring the people watching The Hobbit in theaters 2 and 4.

edited 17th Dec '14 7:58:55 PM by stingerbrg

NapoleonDeCheese Since: Oct, 2010
#92: Dec 17th 2014 at 8:17:39 PM

The really bad thing is this'll teach them they can get pretty much anything done, short of a full war declaration, with no retaliations as long as they throw a scare first.

edited 17th Dec '14 8:18:12 PM by NapoleonDeCheese

Nohbody "In distress", my ass. from Somewhere in Dixie Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Mu
"In distress", my ass.
#93: Dec 17th 2014 at 8:25:21 PM

NDC, they already had that with the numerous capitulations by world governments on agreements the Norks have never shown any intent to actually honor. This just expands their scope of use to companies.

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#94: Dec 17th 2014 at 9:00:12 PM

What's the worse option here? Letting some dickheads feel smug? Or letting innocent people die?

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#95: Dec 17th 2014 at 9:02:20 PM

Who's to say that letting NK feel smug wouldn't lead to death, possibly even more if they figure they can take us on?

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#96: Dec 17th 2014 at 9:08:38 PM

Texas theater responds by screening Team America instead.

So, this scene from the Interview got out. Spoilers, naturally, but seeing as the film won't be shown anyway...

edited 17th Dec '14 9:12:25 PM by Tuckerscreator

GethKnight Since: Apr, 2010
#97: Dec 17th 2014 at 9:12:54 PM

Having a Katy Perry song play while you're getting killed. Not a great way to go. I pity the poor bastard.

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#98: Dec 17th 2014 at 9:13:45 PM

The funny part is that Team America is probably more vicious than this one ever was.

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lancesolous13 from California Since: Dec, 2011 Relationship Status: Dancing with Captain Jack Harkness
#99: Dec 17th 2014 at 9:34:22 PM

Has the film been canned entirely? Or just simply not being released now? The news today in my area was reporting that "They are no longer going through with the Christmas release", but not that the film entirely was stopped.

And, while I'm glad that the theaters are pulling the movie because I'd rather the film be pulled instead of MORE shootings going on. It'd probably be met with laughs if this happened 10 years ago. But we've had movie theater shootings in recent years. Dark Knight Rises anyone? I'd rather not. God no.

I don't think that Korea actually has the power to pull of such a shooting, and I assume they'd just attack some major theater or something rather than random places, but I don't disbelieve in their ability enough to stake potentially a couple hundred lives on it.

But, good lord, this is a mess... Sony's not looking good right now. And god knows I can see some people getting in an uproar about censoring future movies because 'Look at what the Interview threatened'. Ugh...

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GoukaRyuu Since: Aug, 2012
#100: Dec 17th 2014 at 9:52:56 PM

As I read elsewhere, perhaps Twitter or maybe even on this site, the movie Selma doesn't make the South look good. If the KKK threaten to attack theaters can they get that movie pulled too? We have a precedent now.


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