This thread is about Russia and any events, political or otherwise, that are or might be worth discussing.
Any news, links or posts pertaining to the situation involving Russia, Crimea and Ukraine must be put in the 'Crisis in Ukraine' thread.
Group of deputies wants Gorbachev investigated over Soviet break-up.
Above in the Guardian version.
Putin's war against Russia's last independent TV channel.
No discussion regarding nuclear war. As nuclear weapons are not being used by either side, nuclear war is off-topic.
Edited by MacronNotes on Feb 27th 2022 at 11:26:10 AM
Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018
Beg your pardon?
Putin has political consistency (you don't see him go from for something to against something in under 24 hours) and most of all, competence. Trump's myriad business failures and awful credit rating means that he is even further removed from Putin's league than Hillary is.
Putin's not exactly smart, nice or filled with integrity, and most of his achievements can be summed up as "being neither a mass murderer nor a turbo-fuckup, unlike so many other rulers of Russia/USSR," but damn does he beat Trump on all fronts. I'm completely serious here.
Also, why would you ever want to politically compete with Trump? You just stand back and watch him run everything into the ground. Hell, that's why Russian Fascists cheer for Donald - they want to see America burn, and he will make it burn so hard that Nero will rise from his grave and start playing God Send Death on his lyre.
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
It's also why the government is apparently supporting his campaign.
Oh really when?
trolling Clinton and not laughing in Trump's face due to his status as a useful idiot for the Kremlin isn't quite the same as supporting him. I've said it before and I'll keep saying it.
Our public loves mocking both candidates, though.
I wonder if some people think that if Trump becomes president, Putin's Russia will be a comparatively nice place to live in.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
The law in the night
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Are you really sure about that?
Amnesty International evicted from its Moscow office
Wish I could say I'm surprised but I'm not. I'd say Putin's going full dictator, but he was already that. With each year though, he does seem to discard the disguise more and more.
I'm pretty sure that nonsense, vaguely misogynistic claims about Clinton's health belong in the US Politics thread. Assuming one accepts they belong anywhere on the site.
As to the rest...right. Putin is trolling Clinton and throwing help Trump's way because he knows that Clinton will be a pushover, while Trump would be a dangerous opponent. That makes total sense.
edited 2nd Nov '16 5:02:23 PM by AmbarSonofDeshar
Speaking of Clinton, is it true that she wishes to declare war on Russia if she becomes president?
The Wanderer
No.
Eating a Vanilluxe will give you frostbite.
No. Nobody wants war with Russia.
No. The only people who claim this are Trump supporters who think her no-fly zone in Syria is going to somehow start WWIII. Because hey, the USA has never ever shot down a Russian plane before, right?
The number of people in the world who seem to have somehow missed the Cold War.
A procrastination in of itself
edited 2nd Nov '16 10:58:33 PM by Silasw
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
Ambar - That's not Putin, that's his local flunkies trying to please him too hard. Not the first time this has happened, actually.
Vladimir the Great statue unveiled by Putin in Moscow
Subtle.
Si Vis Pacem, Para Perkele
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
Man that is a beautiful statue though.
Oh really when?
Oh, Christ, don't tell me that they've turned this into a controversy. It's not a controversy. It's a statue of an important leader of Kievan Rus that had a petition against it signed by several tens of thousands of people, which in a city of 12 million is absolutely nothing, and also made some Ukrainian nationalists angry because they just can't accept that Kievan Rusian historical figures belong to both them and Russia equally.
Also, the article was rather creative with translating Putin's speech.
edited 4th Nov '16 8:02:54 AM by KnitTie
So there is controversy. Anyway, it's more in the the Guardian's narrative than anything else. Hilarious though.
Si Vis Pacem, Para Perkele
Yes, but you'd think that there is a threshold how much controversy things have to stir up before earning the title of controversal.
edited 4th Nov '16 8:55:32 AM by KnitTie
Once you've become a dictator people tend to stop looking for positive reasons why you are acting the way you are.
It's a little bit like if President Trump put up a statue of Andrew Jackson. There are valid reasons to do it, but...
Although you may have to actually be an American to understand the reaction that would cause.
Prince Vladimir wasn't even remotely interested in democracy, though, and would've probably approved of Putin's statesmanship.
That has everything to do with media image and nothing with actual autocratic tendencies. Look at a dictator that's being praised by a media and see how much people will give him the benefit of the doubt.
edited 4th Nov '16 10:05:22 AM by KnitTie
That's kind of the point Marquis is getting across.
"All you Fascists bound to lose."
But wasn't Andrew Jackson the founder of the party that Trump is currently competing against?
Regarding the statue - it kinda doesn't have any real impact when every single non-powerless ruler of Russia has been in favour of autocracy. If Putin wished to erect a statue to a prominent Russian political figure who's notorious for being softer and cuddler and less fixated on personal power than the rest, he'd probably have to commemorate himself, and I wish I was joking here.
edited 4th Nov '16 9:57:19 AM by KnitTie
