Needs Help: Series.Charlies Angels

The main page for Charlie's Angels describes two TV series (the original from the 70's and the ill-fated reboot from 2011) as well as the two live-action movies from the 2000's. This page is in the Series namespaces.

The works don't get separate subpages but are described in folders on the main page.

Wouldn't it be better to move the main page to Charlies Angels and create subpages in the Series and Movie namespaces for the respective works?

edited 9th Feb '14 12:21:18 AM by GnomeTitan

The series doesn't seem to meet our criteria for Franchise/, though. It takes at least 3 mediums to make a Franchise/-worthy work here.

Sorry, I had missed that it doesn't qualify as a Franchise.

So should the movies just be moved to the Movie namespace?

Eh, no big error. Many folks have that broader reading of the namespace.

Video game, British comic strips...

edited 9th Feb '14 1:29:58 AM by m8e

These things don't have pages on the wiki. That is usually necessary before they count towards Franchise/.

Are you sure that is "Three Mediums" and not "Three Separate Works"?

Because two separate TV shows done decades apart are certainly worthy of having seperate pages, because they won't necessarily be using the same tropes.

Also, there is no reason why the Feature films should not be on a separate page under the Film/ Namespace.

The current arrangement is very clunky. I would support splinting them up into distinct pages.

3 mediums with pages on the wiki are required for Franchise/ pages. Separate works can get separate pages, though. And yeah, the current page is clunky. I would split it up.

I can make a separate works page for the films. I know that creating a works page doesn't require a consensus, but what about moving entries on an existing works page (the movie-related stuff on Series/Charlies) to another one? Does that require consensus?

If they properly belong to your new-made work page? Go ahead.

Support moving all info re: the Drew Barrymore films to a separate article in the Film namespace.

Also, "Charlie's Angels: Full Throttle" is the worst movie I ever paid to see.

OK, the deed is done. Now the films are at Charlies Angels.

If anyone here knows enough about the shows, the quality of some of the examples could be better. Lots of Zero Context Example and a bit of Word Cruft.

Clock is set. I've changed the Main/ page to a disambig between the films and TV series; does anything else still need to be done with the work pages?

You know, having multiple mediums does not make a franchise. Multiple companies using and making money on the property independent of each other beyond selling the right to use it makes a franchise.

If Disney was to tell a story in live action film, book, animated and comic book format but did every project out of its own funds, that would not be a franchise. If Ubisoft made a video game and allowed Shonen Jump to go crazy with its setting, plot and characters that would be more along the lines of a franchise. (It comes from an archaic English term for "exclusive right" and a franc word meaning "free")

I don't see any issues remaining in this threat that could not be better addressed on the discussion pages of said work or in a short term project thread. I move to close this thread.

edited 3rd Apr '14 1:17:28 PM by Catbert

That's because the Franchise/ Name Space isn't for the legal meaning of franchise. The namespace was specifically created for works that exist in multiple media formats. A movie that branched into a television series, and then continued in Comic Book format is a Multimedia Franchise, not a single format.

I'm sorely tempted to suggest changing the name from "Franchise/" to "Multimedia/" due to the misuse.

Agreed. Locking up.