Nickelodeon in General

"hOOT Hoo T you should've given us more episodes hOOT hOOT"

The Ghost and Molly McGee is really good on the Disney Channel. I'm liking Hailey's On It! too.

Disney channel killed their channels (as well as Nat Geo and Fox) on foreign countries in favor of D+.

A poster for the unmade◊ Angry Beavers rock opera episode "Magnum Opus."

Mitch Schauer claims that when he pitched the idea to Nick, they looked at the guest list and said "No kids are gonna know who these people are." Funny, maybe... but then again, he was trying to do an episode parodying pretentious 70s rock operas. Perhaps he should have expected it.

Edited by Aldo930 on Sep 15th 2023 at 5:55:19 AM

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Is it true that there is a lost last episode where the beavers break the fourth wall?

Edited the link to one that should work.

As for the other question, yes, there was and it was called "Bye Bye Beavers." There's been a number of explanations for what happened to it (including some conflicting ones from Micah "Fake Army Ranger" Wright), but thankfully Mitch Schauer told the real story on a podcast.

Essentially, Nick doesn't like telling kids that a show is ending, but they were willing to break the rule, just this once. And indeed, the episode was storyboarded and had voice work recorded. Then some other executive got word that he was going to kill Norb and Dag off and the story spread, and they decided to go back on it. He wasn't actually going to do that (the episode ends on the reveal it was all an April Fool's joke), but unfortunately, the decision was final.

(Margie Cohn says that Schauer "wanted to send the beavers to cartoon heaven" in Jerry Beck's Nicktoons book, incidentally.)

Edited by Aldo930 on Sep 15th 2023 at 6:28:40 AM

It seems so weird that Nick didn't like that. Nowadays shows practically trip over themselves building up extravagant finales, to shows, to seasons, sometimes even to parts of seasons. It seems inconceivable today that a show just quietly ends.

In the old days, Nicktoons had a way of writing episodes that felt like finales even though they never said it. The last episode of the Nick Doug had him graduating, for example, and the first run of Rugrats ended with the episode where everyone thought Angelica was moving away... and it felt like a finale, even though it wasn't explicit.

Of course, some Nicktoons did have actual finales. As Told By Ginger had a three-part finale, if I recall right. The Cat Dog TV movie, "The Great Parent Mystery," though it was written like a finale, was not - because the last episode has Cat Dog's parents come to visit. (Though depending on the order you put the episodes in, that one could be just a postscript to the movie, and the movie is the finale.)

The Angry Beavers finale, however, not only talked about the show being over but took a few potshots at the network as well - Norbert talks about how shows get rerun into the ground after they're over and make lots of money; Daggett says: "And they share the money with the people who made the cartoon, right?" - and Norbert breaks out into laughter...

But again, Nick, at some level, approved this script. If it went into storyboard, it had to have been given the greenlight - episodes the network doesn't want made don't get approved.

Double posting, but this is important.

Today is the 30th anniversary of Rocko's Modern Life. The first episodes to air were "A Sucker for the Suck-O-Matic" and "Canned."

Earlier this year, an album of music from the series was released - unfortunately it doesn't have any of the songs from "Zanzibar!"

Edited by Aldo930 on Sep 18th 2023 at 5:22:27 AM

Zanzibar is awesome. My dad used to sing the spring cleaning song whenever I was reluctant to clean my room. "It's a sick, disgusting job but it's gotta get done!"

Rocko was the show where animation guys like Stephen Hillenberg, Dan Povenmire, and Jeff Swampy Marsh got their start and kickstarted the voice acting careers of Tom Kenny, Carlos Alazraqui, and Mr. Lawrence.

I apologize if I've ranted about this too much, but I've always felt Dib's treatment in Invader Zim feels far too pointlessly cruel.

People tend to call this trope out in shows like Hey Arnold, Spongebob and Foster's Home, but after a while Dib fell into the same "Kid gets tortured and hated by everyone for lulz" and it feels like a double standard with IZ. And before you say, "well, dark humor" I'm aware of the show's nature but it's not funny at all watching a kid get humiliated and bullied constantly for trying to be the hero, along with having a miserable homelife. If it weren't for the movie, I'd swear Jhonen just hated Dib and was using him as a punching bag.

Ironically even the creator agrees with you. In the Netflix movie things are easier and sweeter on Dib... and people complained "Invader Zim lots its bite."

Also this carries over into the comics. I feel like the only one here who hated that Gargantis Array storyline, and it genuinely baffles me how people think "LOL, Dib is fat, lets humiliate him across the universe" is a good, satisfying way to bring IZ back.

And it's even more infuriating when people say "well, Dib is annoying, so it's funny that he gets treated like shit and he deserves it." I can relate a lot to Dib as a neurodivergent kid and his mistreatment being constantly played as a joke doesn't sit well with me.

I know I've complained about this before and some of you will say "get over it, it's dark humor", but I stand by what I say.

There's no need to be confrontational, nor is there need to keep bringing this same topic up repeatedly.

Edited by Diana1969 on Oct 5th 2023 at 11:06:55 AM

Okay sorry.

How sympathetic Dib is entirely depends on how big a deal you think Zim is. The movie went with the take that even is Zim is a blowhard, he's a blowhard who's still a threat to the world and should be taken down.

The show tended to run with the angle that Zim was too pathetic to be a real big deal, and Dib was just being a glory hound. It's all a matter of perspective.

“Monster High 2” premiered on Nickelodeon Thursday as the #1 cable program among kids ages 2-11. The movie delivered 389,000 viewers in Live+3, up 56% from same-day data. Across airings on Nick, Nick at Nite, Nicktoons and Teen Nick, the film reached an audience of 2.6 million for all its weekend airings.

Not even pathetic really, but too stupid to the point of self-defeating.

Anyone remember hearing about the Nicktoons crossover movie circa 2015?

I feel like most people forgot about it. I guess it was never actually greenlit. (Just a pitch sent to Nick that got rejected, and the would-be director kept acting like it would really exist... For whatever reason) Still, wonder if we could see something like it one day. Or at least, another Nicktoons Unite game.

Edited by Shoobedobah on Oct 16th 2023 at 10:18:45 AM

Pluto TV has recently added a "Nickelodeon 90s" channel. So far it appears to consist entirely of marathons of Doug, Rugrats, Rocko's Modern Life, Hey Arnold!, and Kenan & Kel. Likewise, the "Totally Turtles" channel also unveiled its "Cactus Juice" block, devoting its weekends to Avatar: The Last Airbender and The Legend of Korra. The channel has also held airings of Danny Phantom, but I haven't seen any advertisements specifying any date or time.

10/10 channel block name right there.

You know, I'd watch if they put on a few more shows - maybe some Real Monsters, Angry Beavers, Cat Dog... for that matter, why no Ren and Stimpy?

Maybe they didn't wanna bring up a cartoon made by a pedophile.

10/10 channel block name right there.

Drink Cactus Juice! It'll quench ya! Nothing's quenchier! It's the quenchiest!

...Who lit Toph on fire?