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Deadlock Clock: Mar 5th 2014 at 11:59:00 PM
Twentington Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Desperate
#1: Jan 7th 2014 at 3:58:35 PM

Is it just me, or is a lot of Fur Affinity about on-site drama? It seems very complain-y to me.

AnotherDuck No, the other one. from Stockholm Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Mu
No, the other one.
#2: Jan 7th 2014 at 6:31:45 PM

It's not just you.

Check out my fanfiction!
Odd1 Still just awesome like that from Nowhere Land Since: Sep, 2013 Relationship Status: And here's to you, Mrs. Robinson
Still just awesome like that
#3: Jan 7th 2014 at 8:07:51 PM

*looks at page* Yeah, a lot of that's got to go.

Insert witty 'n clever quip here.
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#4: Jan 8th 2014 at 12:13:28 AM

Namespaced the tag.

I'll do some cleanup, probably.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
peccantis Since: Oct, 2010
#5: Jan 8th 2014 at 5:58:14 AM

The page assumes the reader knows what Rednef and Fender are. Could be artists or site mascots for all I understand.

Doing some clean-up.

edited 8th Jan '14 6:21:59 AM by peccantis

treelo Since: Jun, 2010
#6: Jan 8th 2014 at 6:21:47 AM

I'm curious, can a site have trope examples without them being... well, polarised towards a certain viewpoint?

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#7: Jan 8th 2014 at 6:22:18 AM

Sure it can.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
treelo Since: Jun, 2010
#8: Jan 8th 2014 at 6:23:31 AM

Right. Hm. I don't think this needs trope examples.

peccantis Since: Oct, 2010
#9: Jan 8th 2014 at 6:24:24 AM

[up][up][up] It's possible. In practice, there will always be editors who want to push pro or anti sentiments (or do it without realising). Native Wikipedians should be helpful in housekeeping any page with a very opinion-attracting topic.

edited 8th Jan '14 6:24:37 AM by peccantis

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#10: Jan 8th 2014 at 6:27:49 AM

Website pages are work pages. They use tropes (well, their writers/owners/editors do) and we trope them.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
treelo Since: Jun, 2010
#11: Jan 8th 2014 at 6:30:25 AM

[up]Your regular website I can see but not one which functions as a repository for other people's content. DeviantArt lacks any tropes, any reason why?

[up][up] I'd say incredibly judicious examples would be required, it's tough to see almost any trope example not being subject to YMMV or being somewhat flamebaity.

edited 8th Jan '14 6:34:47 AM by treelo

Twentington Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Desperate
#12: Jan 9th 2014 at 9:26:04 PM

Starting to look better. Entitled Bastard could probably go, too.

peccantis Since: Oct, 2010
#13: Jan 10th 2014 at 7:21:50 AM

Ok, I've finished what I wanted to do. Should be better now, please see if it needs more tweaks.

Twentington Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Desperate
#14: Jan 10th 2014 at 8:40:23 AM

Treelo also stepped in and stripped some of the negativity out. I moved an entry to the Trivia tab and removed one that I thought ran afoul of No Real Life Examples Please Looks like this is clearing up well.

peccantis Since: Oct, 2010
#15: Jan 10th 2014 at 11:58:29 AM

Fur Affinity (<- YMMV link) needs some scrubbing as well.

edited 10th Jan '14 12:03:08 PM by peccantis

treelo Since: Jun, 2010
#16: Jan 10th 2014 at 12:11:47 PM

Scrubbing with a sandblaster, it's a huge mess and I'm just wondering if I decide to cut stuff if I'll be going too far or not.

LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#17: Jan 10th 2014 at 12:15:29 PM

Good lord that's a trainwreck

Oh really when?
treelo Since: Jun, 2010
#18: Jan 10th 2014 at 12:49:44 PM

I've considered enough, majority is bashing random stuff in relation to the site (be that the Furry Fandom as an entity, content bans, etc.) when it isn't bashing the site itself, the rest just isn't relevant or just site-based drama.

I've cut out the absolute worst, what I've left can be mulled over.

edited 10th Jan '14 12:55:31 PM by treelo

Twentington Since: Apr, 2009 Relationship Status: Desperate
#19: Jan 10th 2014 at 3:53:13 PM

[up]Good job there too. I think the Moment of Awesome examples should've stayed, so I put them on an Awesome tab.

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#20: Jan 12th 2014 at 8:28:00 AM

treelo, why did you remove a lot of items from YMMV? It's a page dedicated to listing opinions - and you removed them without an edit reason, too.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
treelo Since: Jun, 2010
#21: Jan 12th 2014 at 8:59:15 AM

I gave an explanation, the edit reason I admit I didn't think to add but the content removal I explained in my last post because it wasn't simple "opinion" for varying reasons and I don't see how you can remove bad content from the main but shrug at the same bad content because its on a YMMV page, it's still pretty much bashing and complaining. If it's not on-board then I can always restore whatever I took out and let someone else edit it.

edited 12th Jan '14 9:15:31 AM by treelo

Odd1 Still just awesome like that from Nowhere Land Since: Sep, 2013 Relationship Status: And here's to you, Mrs. Robinson
Still just awesome like that
#22: Jan 13th 2014 at 9:11:44 PM

Personally, I feel like we should shave off the examples/YMMV page/related completely, as this might be a bit too controversial of a page to bother dealing with.

Insert witty 'n clever quip here.
alnair20aug93 🍊orange fursona🧡 from Furrypines (Long Runner) Relationship Status: Chocolate!
🍊orange fursona🧡
#23: Jan 30th 2014 at 5:06:31 AM

I dunno what tropes I'm gonna add concerning recent events such as the Zaush situation and the Weasyl migration...

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treelo Since: Jun, 2010
#24: Jan 30th 2014 at 5:09:54 AM

[up]Don't add them, I saw a lot when culling that page and that whole situation was just a whine magnet.

[up][up] I think cutting all examples including the YMMV page is a good idea, as I said before DeviantArt lacks any form of examples and I can't see why this site is an exception and I reckon that there's a very similar reason for the examplectomy DA's article had that the FA article has right now.

edited 30th Jan '14 5:12:37 AM by treelo

Nohbody "In distress", my ass. from Somewhere in Dixie Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Mu
"In distress", my ass.
#25: Jan 30th 2014 at 7:18:42 AM

^^ Especially don't add them because the accusations of sexual misconduct/rape against him are, as far as I can tell, just that: accusations. Take an emotionally charged issue like rape and add standard furry dramallama bullshit, and you get something that's very much off-mission for the wiki, even if staying away from the accusations and sticking only to what others are saying about them (most of which is "audience reaction" type material anyway).

edited 30th Jan '14 7:20:17 AM by Nohbody

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