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Deadlock Clock: Feb 7th 2014 at 11:59:00 PM
magnum12 Since: Aug, 2009
#1: Jan 2nd 2014 at 9:29:56 PM

Seems we're having issues with Shell-Shocked Veteran. Many of the examples are victims of Post Traumatic Stress Disorder but are not in any way combat veterans. PTSD isn't just caused by war.

Proposed Solution: Split Shell-Shocked Veteran into two tropes, the current one, and a Post Traumatic Stress Disorder trope for the non combat related cases.

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#2: Jan 3rd 2014 at 6:57:29 AM

We really need a PTSD trope, I believe.

Also, given a previous TRS here we might find something there.

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magnum12 Since: Aug, 2009
#3: Jan 3rd 2014 at 1:52:00 PM

Gonna start putting in examples to prep for a eventual split if it happens.

Visual Novels

  • PTSD is a commonly recurring trope in 07th Expansion works.
    • In Higurashi When They Cry, both Satako Houjou and Miyo Takano are heavily implied to suffer from it as a result of heavy abuse they suffered as children. The former has an "episode" in Tatagoroshi-hen in which the VN and manga versions of the breakdown leaves evidence of the possibility that Teppei sexually abused her.
    • In Umineko When They Cry, there is plenty of evidence that Rosa Ushiromiya has it due to a combination of an abusive past, the traumatic event of seeing Beatrice II die in front of her, and for the word "Beatrice" being a "trigger" for her more aggresive personality to come out. Since Maria is the most common cause of the "trigger", it may also influence her own abusive parenting.

edited 3rd Jan '14 4:32:51 PM by magnum12

nrjxll Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Not war
#4: Jan 3rd 2014 at 2:07:56 PM

I'm not sure whether fan interpretations are something we should want included here.

Catbert Since: Jan, 2012
#5: Jan 3rd 2014 at 7:55:57 PM

PTSD is a medical term, and I don't like the idea of tropers playing armchair psychiatrist and trying to diagnose characters, or having a page for "PTSD occurs". I'd rather have more specific (and less technically named) pages on the various ways that a character being traumatized has a story telling impact.

magnum12 Since: Aug, 2009
#6: Jan 3rd 2014 at 8:16:26 PM

It can be used as a sympathetic factor for a villain. As a matter of fact, how Takano managed to avoid being labeled a Complete Monster (and her's is pretty severe at that).

xanderiskander Since: Mar, 2012
#7: Jan 3rd 2014 at 10:14:51 PM

@Magnum12 a villain with a trauma used as a sympathetic factor is covered by Freudian Excuse.

Examples about a traumatic past that doesn't involve war belongs on the Dark and Troubled Past page and it's subtropes. Characters with traumatic pasts that are used as an excuse for their actions (like Takano and Rosa's) also belong on the Freudian Excuse page.

edited 3rd Jan '14 10:38:28 PM by xanderiskander

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#8: Jan 4th 2014 at 6:42:39 AM

Heroic BSoD also seem to cover most of the non-war-related aspects of this trope...

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#10: Feb 8th 2014 at 2:13:54 PM

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