7 - More attitude than your average NWOBHM band with their fast picked speed metal riffing although the production stifles a lot of the bite.
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10, definitely 10.
Oh man, early Raven, you can't go wrong. This is 1983.
Raven - Seek & Destroy
Borderline 8 due to the thrashier bits,but overall it's very NWOBHM influenced. Awesome song! \m/
I've just now heard of "Rings Of Saturn". A pretty strange deathcore band,if you ask me.
6 - Sterile spastic technical deathcore that attempts to throw more at the listener than it can actually manage, resulting in little of its content sticking with any weight while its rapid-fire shredding doesn't convey forcefulness terribly well.
First of all,Your song is a borderline 7 on the scale.
I ranked it from an "objective" point of view,Analyzing the distortion and looking at the high-pitched-ness of the riffs and its abundant yet distorted melody rather than how "POWERFUL" did it sound to me.
The rather clean vocals and bass,coupled with the mid-tempo overall gave it a 6,but its NWOBHM-influenced style raised its level.
I write and remark all of that obvious stuff because YOU,on the other hand,did what you did with "Cowboys From Hell",Ranking it on a strangely low level because...You didn't like it. I ultimately did not find a better way to describe your situation.
THAT'S NOT HOW THE SCALE WORKS!
I don't rank Waking The Cadaver on 7 because i find the riffs to be crap and the blast beats to be weak! I hate them,but i still rank them on 11 because it's still DISSONANT and DISTORTED!
It's like ranking a Diamond on a 5 in the ACTUAL Scale because it doesn't LOOK strong.
Maybe my comparison is Dissimile ,but you should be able to get the idea.
Ok,done ranting.
Agalloch-And The Great Cold Death Of The Earth
edited 30th Nov '15 5:54:52 PM by Elpanados45
Hard to place due the many contrasting elements, but I'll put it at a 6 for the sections of distortion and harsh vocals. It feels too laid-back and lightweight to go any higher, but too dark and harsh to go any lower. I'm not normally a fan of the more weird Genre-Busting subgenres of metal, but that was really cool.
By the way, I agree with your above rant. We've both been in this thread from the beginning and I've noticed that every time a song comes up in a subgenre he doesn't like his bias really takes over in his rating.
I find it hard to state these in terms of objectivity - much of this boils down to personal conceptions of heavy and what falls into different levels of the scale can vary from person to person. I simply do not find a lot of characteristics terribly heavy after a personal run through - if you find that so distressing, perhaps you should simply paying so much attention to someone merely expressing an opinion you disagree with.
Dissonance and distortion after all, are rather plain characteristics. The mere presence of them alone does not mean much without a particularly forceful use. After all the music I've heard, metal and otherwise, a lot of what some people find "heavy" I personally find to be soft and lukewarm. I don't plan to change my views to suit someone else's anytime soon.
7.5
Kind of reminds me of Ghost Opera crossed with The Black Halo, focusing mostly on punchy syncopated drumming backing up melodic, grooving riffage. It's a bit heavier than what normally passes for the genre but everything they wrap up a relatively simple idea with doesn't really add that much in terms of force.
Ras Algethi - The Bride Eternal
edited 30th Nov '15 9:50:12 PM by StillbornMachine
I'd say it's a 7 overall, bordering on a soft 8 at points. It is kind of like the Agalloch song above in that it's long, slow, atmospheric, has both hard and soft passages, and has a brief use of harsh vocals. I've never really liked Doom Metal because of how relentlessly crushing and oppressive it is, but this more atmospheric take on the style I could get behind.
Standard 8. Synths,High notes and Power Metalism mixed with Thrashyness,low notes,not-just-fast-but-also-AGRESSIVE drums...
Pretty good,considering i was never into the kind of power/symphonic/thrash/prog metal that Dream Theater plays a lot. I liked more the darker stuff by Meshuggah,Opeth or Gojira.
Morbid Vomit - Beaten from Belief
No,not Morbid Angel. Morbid Vomit. I found this band in an article from "Metal Injection" about underground bands.
edited 30th Dec '15 3:47:51 PM by Elpanados45
5 - Not a big change in heaviness but actually an improvement vocally.
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I would say that goes Up To Eleven. I couldn't understand a word he was saying.
edited 2nd Jan '16 6:19:32 AM by Papercut1
Somewhere around 7, maybe 7.5 at its heaviest
Melt-Banana - Lie Lied Lies
edited 2nd Jan '16 2:28:02 PM by FingerPuppet
Well the guitar sound would put it at a 7, but the really frenetic drumming plus the constant onslaught of bizarre vocals brings it up to an 8.
7.5 - Aside from being a promising sign of things to come, Kamelot had a bit more weightiness to their riffing than most of their compatriots likely due to their prog heritage. While it's not yet at the Iced Earth level the gradual progression from stuttered riffs to dagger-sharp power riffs gives this a weightiness to its movement often missing in the genre.
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A hard 10. Those guitars and vocals hurt my ears.
I'd put it at 7. I feel like this is nu-metal/rap metal done well, with guitars that are metallic and punchy instead of just sludgy and distorted, and a frontman/MC with an actual commanding presence who isn't an annoying little twerp.
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Hmm. I'd put it at 8, maybe 8.5. The instruments are punchy, and it's probably be a nine but the Soprano and Gravel dynamics between the death growler and the clean operatic singer make it harder to classify. Speaking of Soprano and Gravel...
Boy, people will never stop trying to find new genres to combine metal with. I'd say it's a 7 at most. The riffs are mostly that nu-metal bounce without much drive or force to them, and the harsh vocals aren't that harsh. And then there's the Justin Bieber-sounding bridge.
If we're continuing the theme of Soprano and Gravel:
6.5 - Surprisingly dense guitar sound for a sympho metal band but but the actual riffing jumps between single string power metal speedsters and kind of hard rockish post-Rainbow backing riffs.
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Up To Eleven. I actually had to move my headset away from my ears due to how loud that was.
A 6 seems about right. The song feels like it is about halfway between hard rock and heavy metal, but it has enough punchy riffing to bring it up to that level.
I'll take a little break from posting metal...
The Allman Brothers Band - Whipping Post
edited 9th Jan '16 8:33:00 AM by djbj
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I'd say a solid 5. The guitars are fairly loud, and the vocals can get up too but not too much.
4 - Bassier, punkier, grungy rocky stuff. It's heavier while still being within radio airplay territory but the riffs themselves are rather plain and indistinct and the vocal theatrics and layering don't really have much of a foot to stand on to project heaviness.
edited 10th Jan '16 11:49:26 AM by StillbornMachine
A hard 5. Eddie Van Halen's playing style has a semi-metallic tone at points and incorporates metal elements, but for the most part is rooted in your basic hard rock sound.
Raven - Speed of the Reflex