Poor Image: Costumer

Besides the potential problem as that one can't recognize a protagonist from the Star Trek franchise as being not by that area, the picture seems rather dark.

So, if everyone wants to keep this picture, can someone please enhance it to be brighter?

Here's a couple of alternatives: 1◊, 2◊

Probably could spruce up one of those two, pair it with a grab from another episode so we have something to compare to.

One with a better view of Worf might work better. Robin Hood + Rubber-Forehead Aliens do not mesh that well.

Yeah, did a quick search myself as well.

edited 28th Nov '13 5:46:20 PM by AnotherDuck

GIS didn't turn up much that was better, but if someone can find/make something, go for it.

Not Medieval but Mobster◊.

70's Casino◊

Galactic Columbus◊

and Doctor Who Saloon.◊

edited 2nd Dec '13 12:41:53 AM by Paktra

I'd take 6.1 and 6.3 sure, 6.4 can burn in a ditch.

Fine with me. 6.1 or 6.3.

6.4 was just meh...

edited 2nd Dec '13 2:58:31 AM by Paktra

6.2 doesn't work because it's the opposite way around (future person in anachronistic setting) and 6.4 (besides my utter revulsion of Doctor Who) isn't showing the anachronism and is pretty much running on assumption doing the work.

It's basically a coinflip between 6.1 and 6.3 but I think 6.3 sells it better.

edited 2nd Dec '13 5:17:24 AM by treelo

6.3 is the only one that doesn't rely on knowing the characters and illustrates the trope. Well, maybe the crossover pic too.

edited 2nd Dec '13 6:39:53 AM by AnotherDuck

6.3 is best. It clearly illustrates the juxtaposition we need between both the period, and standard costumes, together.

I like 6.1 better, but it is just two guys in suits, and doesn't show the difference. If one was in the Star fleet uniform and the other as the mobster it would work.

6.3 is great. At 350:

edited 2nd Dec '13 10:10:58 PM by Willbyr

Hear, Hear!

Bonus points for the guy in the back, his face is priceless, and he looks like Fez!

edited 2nd Dec '13 11:50:25 PM by Paktra

(Contined from the Medieval European Fantasy thread)

Well, since it seems like we have a proper image for now... perhaps deteriming the page quote or image caption is in order?

Picard: "I think this is supposed to be Earth - somewhere... round about the twelfth century. And this is England, or to be more precise, Sherwood Forest; at least Q's recreation of it."

Riker: "That would explain these costumes."

Picard: "Quite right, Number One - or... should I say 'John Little'?"

Dr. Crusher: "Well, if he's Little John, that makes you..."

Picard: "I know. Robin Hood."

...I don't know what's going on at 6.3/12.

Apparently, a man from the past wounded up to the era of Star Trek and made his way to the main characters' starship.

edited 4th Dec '13 2:12:13 PM by KarjamP

That "man" is a very long story... In a few words, his name is "Q" he is a member of godlike beings called the "Q Continuum" that are so advanced they see themselves as better than all other life in the rest of the many universes.

However this one member of the Q likes to "Play God" and troll humans, especially Captain Picard and so he often throws them into wacky, time-travelling situations.

Because of his Joker-like pranks, the rest of his kind even cursed him to become human and live on the ship as punishment until he learned his lesson.

edited 4th Dec '13 2:40:17 PM by Paktra

^^ "24th century character is dressed like a 17th century character" is a wayyyyyyyyy more likely interpretation than "17th century character time-travelled to the 24th century".

edited 4th Dec '13 2:41:24 PM by rodneyAnonymous

Doesn't make that unambiguous, since that's the first "interpretation" I've come across there.

Doesn't help that the room looks like a spaceship instead of what era Q's clothes are supposed to represent.

If I need to know the backstory of Q, then I'm not sure that it's the right image for the page.

Also, Q looks human to me.

DESCLAIMER: I don't watch Star Trek. (I only recognised Picard here, but that's only because I saw my parents watching it, but I didn't join in on the watching {And even then, I only learnt of Picard's name in this thread}. The Android and the Kinglon's obvious, though).

edited 4th Dec '13 3:11:14 PM by KarjamP

Well, I find it safe to say, that an all-knowing, all-powerful race of shape-shifting aliens that can take on the form of whoever and whatever they please... including humans for simplicity's sake. Plus, Q has a fetish for historical impersonations, if you want to call it that.

But, my main point of using this picture is that is shows both the regular costume and the period costume, at the same time and in the same place.

edited 4th Dec '13 3:41:52 PM by Paktra

^^ You don't need the backstory. "This can be misinterpreted" is not a strong argument. Wearing a costume is a much more probable explanation than time travel; that's a Red Paint sort of argument.

I second you Rodney...

We don't need an explanation, the page itself provides that much. We just require an image that can clearly and instantaneously illustrate the juxtaposition between the regular and alternate universe costumes.

Am I right, Rodney?

I still see it as my original interpretation.

I don't know how it could be interpreted as this trope without knowing what the scene's about, since I don't recognize the costumer dressing up in period clothing to be an alien. (It doesn't help that the setting seems to be a space ship.)

Just because it's the "most probable explanation" doesn't mean everyone gets it, since I must have a different frame of mind than the others here.

Even so, the fact that it's a sci fi means it can be interpreted as time travel (especially since time travel is not unknown in Star Trek even if it's uncommon, AFAIK).

If it demonstrates to me, there needs to be proof that the characters are dressing up in a different attire than normal, if they wounded up in an "alternate universe"^note If the examples are of any implication, it doesn't have to be about alternate universes, just a setting different than the others.

Thus, giving me an idea of having multiple images in one showing them in different suits.

edited 5th Dec '13 4:17:23 AM by KarjamP

You're overthinking it.

...What do you mean?

That it doesn't matter if the reader knows who they are, its clear that the clothing worn by one of the characters isn't time appropriate. Anyway, the points you're making do make me consider the point you're making a little closer and I tend to agree, we do need context as without it we're not sure how these characters (even if they are clearly not human) usually dress and it is important we don't assume the reader already knows. I'd like a comparison shot actually so we should try for that.

edited 5th Dec '13 4:51:03 AM by treelo