News/Checkup Thread: Phillipine Supertyphoon

In case you haven't heard, the Phillipines got kinda wrecked by Typhoon Haiyan recently.

First order of business: all Filipino tropers okay? I know we had a few here on OTC.

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I was about to ask if the Philippinos were prepared for that, but then it occurred to me that you can't really prepare to 300 km/h winds.

Anyone knows what's the closest we got to a Super Typhoon like that?

"We" being the USA/North America?

That would be Hurricane Wilma, the 1935 Labor Day Hurricane, Hurricane Camille, and Hurricane Andrew.

We, in the whole world really, we don't wanna be exclusionary.

It's pretty scary tho that Haiyan had 380 km/h peak winds, while the closest NA hurricanes had like 305 winds.

It's surreal seeing a Sunday article being quite chill with it, and then on Monday: "BAM! Front page! 10k dead!"

I'm worried.

American Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel has dispatched close to 100 Marines and sailors to help with relief efforts in the Philippines after a typhoon killed at least 10,000 people.

Australia will give $10 million in humanitarian aid for the Philippines in the aftermath of typhoon Haiyan.

UN humanitarian wing announces $25 million for typhoon relief efforts.

edited 11th Nov '13 12:26:00 PM by DeviantBraeburn

No typhoon anywhere else really 'came close'. The only ones that had faster winds were those in the 30s-60s, where speed measurements were not as reliable as they were in the years after.

There were a couple that had roughly the same speeds, but they lost some speed, once they made landfall.

In Haiyan's case, it barely lost speed once it landed.

Wunderground post.

I'm based in the NCR, so I'm fine. Typhoon didn't bother much aside from rain.

Lot of countries are sending in SAR teams, including DART from Canada. Russia's getting in a mobile hospital with EMERCOM doctors.

Think it's the first time they've been here, unless I'm wrong. I know that. EMERCOM been to other parts of SEA, IIRC.

Expect JGSDF troops to arrive in the Philippine for SAR ops aside from EMERCOM medical personnel.

Reports of eight people killed in a crush at a food warehouse, along with aid convoys being attacked.

Source.

edited 12th Nov '13 11:46:24 PM by Deadbeatloser22

No surprise. New People's Army fighters are the main source of trouble. Perhaps they're going to get the supplies to give them more credibility.

Seems like you moved just in time.

and people wonder why the U.S. has a tendency to bring guns with them on these kinds of missions.

About the NPA attack, it might not be that accurate. Also, nearly a week after the storm, Philippines criticized for slow and disorganized response.

I'm not surprised. It took a few days for stuff to get to us(my part of new jersey) after sandy and that was A- nothing compared to this absolute shitstorm B- In America.

It's a good thing a lot of foreign aids on the way though. plus the USS Washington's en route, means plenty of fresh water if nothing else.

Well, one would think that the Philippines, having experienced many storms in its history, would be better prepared.

I direct you to Question Marc's previous comment:

I'm going to say this, the winds weren't that big of a deal. It is always the surge that the biggest killer in tropical cyclones.

Just take a look at Galveston back in 1900 or 2008, and Sandy, can't forget about the surge from her

Aren't the Philippines mostly near sea level?

edited 14th Nov '13 12:31:10 AM by tclittle

Don't wind speeds affect surge volume?

Surge size is based off a number of factors: including pressure of the storm, how far out the continental shelf is from land, the shape of the land itself, whether high or low tide is occurring, and the direction the wind is going.

In order to keep this from getting too cluttered, I'd recommend moving any Tropical weather discussion to this thread. Its kinda dead anyways.

Canadian DART soldiers are in country. They're going to be mobilized.

It's also official that JGSDF troops are going to be deployed for SAR ops.

China gives less aid to the Philippines than Ikea.

"we're a rising super power, we swear!"

China certainly isn't being a generous superpower.

Japan Sending 1,000 Troops to Philippines.

Russian planes deliver 56 tons of humanitarian aid to Philippines.

Typhoon could cut Philippines growth by 1% next year.