The reason bullies are still seen in today's cartoons is because bullying is still a problem in schools. I just wish they would be well-written for once.
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That would fix some things wrong with Western Animation today - one of my major pet peeves, too!
I know the solution! The writers should confront real bullies and study them!
- they come back with bruises*
........ now I see why they don't do that.
Robery: You DO realize TV Chanels are not charities? And that they need high ratings for higher income? Viacom's stock in particular is taking a hit.
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Care to provide some data to back that up?
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He's not stupid, he meant evidence of Nickelodeon's ratings drop.
edited 23rd Oct '13 2:50:09 PM by PrettyCoco
Honestly, I'd say it's better than sending the false message that a bully will always get in trouble in the end for his/her actions. That's hardly the case—even when people do report bullies, it still doesn't tend to ever actually have much of any effect, and if it does, all it usually does is leading to the bullying being more torturous.
So the alternative is telling kids 'Just shut up and take it'? Gotcha.
It's a fine line to walk on, and it's just as wrong telling them everything will always work fine no matter what, but the thing is, as they portray it now, it's always the bad guys having their way in the long run.
The whole 'bullies never win' thing was mainly my magnified frustration at a repetitive thread in Nick shows/toons. I'd settle for not having them show up again at the very last second of the show to inflict mega-hurt, like some eps of Danny Phantom. And have all the bratty half-pint evil geniuses you want. Just dial them back, and on occasion have dumb luck not break in their favor.
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I'd prefer if they portrayed how the situations would play out in a more balanced and realistic way, without necessarily going to either extreme. Honestly, I'd love it if they started making the "stand up for yourself" message more prominent. Sure, they can show the characters reporting bullying. But they should also show the all too common scenario of these reports having little to no effect, as well as giving advice for what to do when this happens. The alternative is certainly not "shut up and take it", and I'm quite frankly insulted that you're suggesting that I'm insinuating that.
@Coco:
Well, like it or not, Nickelodeon is improving in ratings:
http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2013/10/23/viacom-continues-to-impress.aspx
I like it! 
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Yeah, I can't see how that'd be a bad thing.
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Well, it's bad for the people who hate Nickelodeon.
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Which means that if you truly do like Nick, that's a good thing, true. But, it appears there is a darker side to this; http://www.deadline.com/2013/10/is-viacom-cannibalizing-nick-jr-and-spongebob-to-save-nickelodeon/
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That must mean they're so desperate for ratings that SB and the Nick Jr. are the only things keeping the network afloat. Probably why they keep trying to advertise the thundermans' show to high Heavens.
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>calling a child a retard
Tropers have done worse things.
I don't want Nick to shut down. I just want it to find a new or expanded set of tropes to rely on. As for Dan Schneider, bring in former TV teacher Howard Hesseman and have him explain why you change things out to keep things actually funny. Howard, show Dan some WKRP goodness. Explain that while the show had regular butt monkeys, even a character like Jennifer Marlowe had eps where she got the pie in the face. And if you have bullies, don't make everyone of them Flash Thompson before character development.
...What's WKRP?
It's one thing to make a spectacle. It's another to make a difference.
In short : Dan Schneider, the producer and creative force behind many many Nick Live Action shows with evil genius bratty half pint Karma Houdinis like Drake & Josh started out on a show called 'Head Of The Class'. It started with comedy actor Howard Hesseman as the teacher of these genius misfits. Hesseman before this (and probably nowadays too) was best known for the last of the great MTM comedies, WKRP In Cincinnati, where he played former stoner DJ Doctor Johnny Fever. WKRP was about a radio station that was decidedly not at the top of its market when the show started, and the efforts of its quirky staff to raise its fortunes as it went from elevator music to rock and roll. A lot of talent in and around that show, and IMO, really good.
Also IMO, Dan Schneider could use some of what that show had.
edited 27th Oct '13 12:39:05 AM by Gojirob
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I just wish they'd do something even more original for their programing, Like now, Hub's new Live-action series, Spooksville actually shows promise for being their first actual original, serialized tv show, which brings back memories of Magmum PI and Quantum Leap, while this Thundermans series takes aspects of EVERY SUPERHERO TROPE and throws it into another family sitcom which is just A Waste Of A Good Plot IMHO.
edited 27th Oct '13 9:19:29 AM by KingKix
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@Gojirob Not to be rude, but your ideas are ridiculous.
I'm pretty sure, though, that Nick is getting a good share of the audience it wants to get. They don't really have much incentive to "win back" anyone.