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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#1: Aug 18th 2013 at 1:48:37 AM

This is kind of an inquiry/policy proposal too.

As it is, hyphens are the only non-alphanumeric texts that the site URLs support. So while all other special characters can be done only by a Custom Title, pages with hyphenated titles end up as a mix of custom title and real hyphen titled ones.

Is it advisable to use custom titles over hyphens in these cases? I would say yes, since:

  1. Hyphenated wicks need curly brackets, which makes them harder to type and Ctrl+F.
  2. Since CamelCase is the standard form of linking here, many of these pages end up with unhyphenated redirects with significant wicks.

Any disagreements?

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AnotherDuck No, the other one. from Stockholm Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Mu
No, the other one.
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#3: Aug 18th 2013 at 4:31:39 AM

For what it's worth, the reason I made this topic is because I had a dispute with the editor who moved Kick-Ass2 to the hyphenated title.

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m8e from Sweden Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Wanna dance with somebody
#4: Aug 18th 2013 at 6:07:13 AM

I think we should keep franchises/series etc standardized. Kick-Ass and Kick-Ass have hyphens (and should have hyphens) so kick-ass2 should have it too.

edited 18th Aug '13 6:10:04 AM by m8e

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#5: Aug 18th 2013 at 6:10:21 AM

You can do these with custom titles too - Kick-Ass shows up with a hyphen as well.

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Nocturna Since: May, 2011
#6: Aug 18th 2013 at 10:50:43 AM

I'm fairly sure current wiki policy is to not use hyphens when creating pages, but to make a CamelCase name and add the hyphen via the custom titler. I'm pretty sure the majority of page titles which have hyphens in them predate the custom titler.

Mikurufan from Away Since: Nov, 2012
#7: Aug 18th 2013 at 1:37:51 PM

What about hyphens in broken up work example lists? Those would have titles like "TropesA-C".

Discar Since: Jun, 2009
#8: Aug 18th 2013 at 6:20:16 PM

Same. It doesn't matter as much, since you're not going to be linking directly to those pages very often, but it's still easier.

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#9: Aug 24th 2013 at 12:13:06 PM

Bumping for more input on the matter. I see two people agreeing with me and one expressing a (conditional) disagreement.

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Zyffyr from Portland, Oregon Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
#10: Aug 24th 2013 at 4:34:23 PM

I agree : Hyphens in wicks are bad juju. Custom title to get it.

DriftingSkies Grand Exhausted Poobah from The Space between nowhere and somewhere. Since: Jul, 2012
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#11: Aug 24th 2013 at 10:22:39 PM

Hyphens should be disallowed. We have the custom-titler ability; we should use it, instead of forcing users to learn which titles do or do not use hyphens. It's confusing, and there isn't any reason why hyphenated titles should be preferred.

I don't think my opinion means anything, but I think they are more trouble than they are worth and they should be banned. No reason why they can't be written as Wiki Words and CT'ed to include the full hyphenated glory.

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#14: Aug 26th 2013 at 2:59:40 AM

Well, this certainly looks like a consensus to me. I guess we can roll with this concerning Kick-Ass, Kick-Ass 2 and Kick-Ass, although I am going to wait a) until I have time for an extensive page move and b) in case of objections.

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MikuruFan from Away Since: Nov, 2012
#15: Sep 1st 2013 at 10:22:32 PM

If there is significant support, there could be a cleanup thread.

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#16: Sep 2nd 2013 at 1:26:00 AM

There is one already - "Hyphen Migration".

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MikuruFan from Away Since: Nov, 2012
#17: Sep 2nd 2013 at 1:27:42 AM

Oh. Found it.

I would have expected to be in Short Term, but I could understand that it is perpetual.

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