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desdendelle (Avatar by Coffee) from Land of Milk and Honey (Ten years in the joint) Relationship Status: Writing a love letter
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#601: Dec 19th 2014 at 3:54:21 AM

Daesh stands for "Dawla Alislamiyah fi Aliraq wa A-sham" (دولة الإسلامية في العراق والشام), "The Islamic State in Iraq and Greater Syria".

edited 19th Dec '14 3:55:51 AM by desdendelle

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#602: Dec 19th 2014 at 5:10:08 AM

I just use it cuz the name is more accurate. ISIL/ISIS/IS are not for a variety of reasons, some aforementioned already.

EDIT-

And it sounds cooler.

edited 19th Dec '14 5:10:21 AM by FFShinra

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#603: Dec 19th 2014 at 5:39:50 AM

I use it partially 'cos to me it sounds less cool :)

edited 19th Dec '14 5:40:13 AM by betaalpha

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#604: Dec 19th 2014 at 2:20:16 PM

Is it Daa-esh or Daysh or Day-esh? The apostrophe makes me think the former.

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#605: Dec 19th 2014 at 2:22:01 PM

Da-esh, IIRC.

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MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#606: Dec 20th 2014 at 1:32:49 AM

Actually, the English "Levant" and the Arabic "Al-Sham" are equivalent terms that denote the same geographic region as it was historically known, i.e. Palestine and Jordan are indeed part of "Al Sham" as a geographic region. You can even cross-check with the Arabic Wikipedia article, which is linked to from the English Wikipedia article via the "Languages" submenu at the left.

edited 20th Dec '14 1:34:02 AM by MarqFJA

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#607: Dec 20th 2014 at 4:10:30 AM

What do you. The more you know etc.

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#609: Dec 20th 2014 at 8:34:27 AM

Problem isn't whether the names are equivalent. The problem is no one settles on which one to use in the english translation.

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#610: Dec 20th 2014 at 8:41:17 AM

Ah, that's true. But that list still provides for some interesting background on the whole name thing.

Anyway, back on topic... Any terrorism-related news?

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#611: Dec 20th 2014 at 10:30:04 AM

Yeah. Financial Times says IS begun mass-executing foreign recruits who want to go back home instead of fighting.

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#612: Dec 20th 2014 at 10:33:29 AM

[up]Maybe that will help deter any people who are interested in joining them.

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#613: Dec 20th 2014 at 12:46:27 PM

Unless they chalk it off as "they're deserters, they deserve to be mass-executed", if they believe in Daesh's ideology fanatically enough.

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#614: Dec 21st 2014 at 8:38:24 AM

Looks like the Kurds are starting to retake Sinjar.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-30569313

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#615: Dec 21st 2014 at 9:00:43 AM

If literally and maliciously shooting up a school does not convince the world of the evil of this kind of organized Islamic fundamentalism, nothing will.

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#616: Dec 21st 2014 at 9:09:07 AM

-Shrugs, mumbles something about realpolitik-

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#617: Dec 21st 2014 at 2:42:09 PM

'Allahu Akbar' attacker shot by French police

Police in central France have shot dead a man who attacked them with a knife while shouting "God is great!" in Arabic, French media report. The man injured three police officers at Joue-les-Tours police station near the city of Tours before he was shot.

The assailant was a Burundi-born French national with a criminal record, a source close to the investigation told France's AFP news agency.

Dijon: Driver targets city pedestrians

A driver shouting "God is great" in Arabic has run down pedestrians in the French city of Dijon, injuring 11, two seriously, French media say. He was arrested after targeting pedestrians at five locations.

The suspect is "apparently imbalanced and had been in a psychiatric hospital", a source close to the investigation said.

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#618: Dec 21st 2014 at 2:50:07 PM

Great now the crazy individuals who latch onto Islamic extremism are coming out of the woodwork in Europe, first Canada, then Australia and now France. The Met must be working overtime to stop something happening in London, we've had so many occurrences copy cats seem inevitable at this point.

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#619: Dec 21st 2014 at 3:13:31 PM

[up][up] I feel for those guys. It's enough that we have those bastards here, those poor, clueless Europeans need them as much as they need seven bad years...

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#620: Dec 21st 2014 at 6:13:42 PM

Ours are of the Christian variety...different flavor of batshit.

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#621: Dec 22nd 2014 at 1:04:50 AM

Are we seeing the beginnings of a wave of copycat terrorism?

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#622: Dec 22nd 2014 at 3:39:19 AM

Terrorism being used as an excuse for those with existing delusions.

Just say you support 'insert group here' and there you go, international coverage. Some others will see it, rinse and repeat.

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#623: Dec 22nd 2014 at 6:01:53 AM

[up][up] Not copycat. Just more efficient.

The US has long been in denial over our domestic terrorism problem. It is easier to make people afraid of the brown man way over there instead of the truth that the clean cut white man down the road is more likely to blow you up.

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#624: Dec 22nd 2014 at 6:11:39 AM

Mmm, a Muslim family had their business burnt to the ground in my community several years ago, with "This is for 9/11" spray-painted on the ground. Quickly ruled "accidental" by the local police.

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#625: Dec 22nd 2014 at 6:12:42 AM

I assume you live in America...? The only other thing that comes to mind is the Israeli police's dismissive attitude toward right wing vandalism ("Price Tag").

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