Okay, that's pretty much what I was getting at with ninjas appearing in places or situations where ninjas don't normally occur, like the golf example that is that page image.
I'm cool with that as long as the description makes the distinction very clear.
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I like that definition, but given the amount of misuse we have here I do think it needs a clearer name.
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So, is anyone willing to write up a YKKTW or redefine this trope or what?
I have to ask if that is The Same, but More Specific of Garnishing the Story.
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Yes, clearly so.
This trope is already listed as a subtrope of Garnishing the Story. "Ninja in works not about them are so much cooler than without ninja." All we need to do is change the name.
Whose ready for a crowner?
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^ So is that what happened to our Everythings Better With... family.
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For the "gratuitous ninja" thing, Ninja Out Of Nowhere came to mind as a suggestion...would the dual interpretation of that be too confusing?
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Something like that, though I like the sound of Random Ninja Encounter better.
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I'm afraid so; it has the same issue as the current name.
Yes. Or perhaps Gratuitous Ninja.
edited 30th Aug '13 10:32:56 AM by Spark9
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I prefer Random Ninja Encounter.
edited 30th Aug '13 12:11:05 PM by MikuruFan
Nobody minds about the The Same, but More Specific issue? We have a trope Garnishing the Story for things that exist just to spice up something.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
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I don't see why an abrupt ninja would fall under that trope.
Because that trope is for things being thrown in to spice something up. Same for this, really.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
The imaginative Christian Asperger
By that logic, almost all subtropes are The Same But More Specific.
Just look at them!
Well, as our page on TSBMS notes, it's often subjective. The call I made here is that since "work with ninjas" is not a trope, this trope would have to rely entirely on GTS to stand, voiding any difference.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Garnishing the Story does not have specific examples on the page.
Hmm, I think I'll have to ask the Everything's Better With Indexes thread about that - there certainly are some offpage examples, and I don't know why it should not have them.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Perhaps if it did, the examples of the same thing would be lumped together in one long example section.
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I remember suggesting that a Random Ninja Encounter wouldn't necessarily be "gratuitous" - it has some influences of Chandler's Law.
edited 30th Aug '13 5:53:41 PM by Stratadrake
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Well, the thing is that we have a lot of pages "gratuitous <foo> to spice up a work". I don't think it's feasible to merge all of them. I would prefer to focus on getting rid of the pages that are "list of all works containing a <foo>" because that's clearly not a trope.
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Speaking personally, I do not mind merging this into GTS.
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This is precisely what I would suggest.
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As opposed to "it's actually expected to have a ninja here". I would not qualify Naruto - that is a place where I would expect ninjas.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman