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indiana404 Since: May, 2013
#12526: Sep 2nd 2017 at 12:32:57 AM

A happy ending? Well, there are these massage parlors in Thailand...

I'd say the development in BVS pretty much is the setup for a happy ending for Superman, or at least a generally cheerful status quo once he breaks out of the coffin. The problem with superheroes nowadays is that there is so much information regarding global issues - issues they would be very successful in dealing with - that a story simply can't end by saying "once again, the day was saved by the Powerpuff Girls!" No, it always has to be a perpetual struggle, superheroes are never allowed to actually change something in the world, and eventually the whole deal seems like an exercise in futility.

And this is where BVS shined, by saying that ultimately Superman doesn't have to care about the whole world, at least more so than it is the place his loved ones live in. He doesn't owe anything to anyone. He can make sure his family is safe, maybe his city, and that's all he ever actually needs to take care of; anything else is strictly gratis. Again, not the image of the perfect paragon Too Good for This Sinful Earth, but one much more stable in the long run. And dare I say, much closer to the classic version, who went out saying "this looks like a job for Superman" only in the direst emergencies.

Nikkolas from Texas Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#12527: Sep 2nd 2017 at 12:58:17 AM

Life sucks and then you die.

Also True Artis Angsty is a great trope.

bookworm6390 Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: Abstaining
#12528: Sep 2nd 2017 at 3:37:08 PM

What would Martha Kent say to Batman if she found out what he said and almost did to her boy? Bruce needs to apologize to Clark for being a Fantastic Racism bully.

RAlexa21th Brenner's Wolves Fight Again from California Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
Brenner's Wolves Fight Again
#12529: Sep 2nd 2017 at 3:44:21 PM

[up][up]It's not a trope.

Where there's life, there's hope.
TargetmasterJoe Since: May, 2013
#12530: Sep 28th 2017 at 7:33:50 AM

A few weeks back, MovieBob made the surprise announcement that the next episode of "Really That Good" was going to be on why Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice is considered really that bad.

I know what some of you are thinking.

You're thinking, "why would there be an episode of Really That Good explaining why Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice is considered to be really that bad?"

Well, Bob's got an explanation.

Essentially, while Bob conceived Really That Good to be a countermeasure against YouTube videos that go apeshit crazy and ballistic over bad movies and the like, he personally feels that if he were to do a show on why bad movies are bad, the bad movie in question would have to be an exceptionally bad movie. One where even the supposed redeeming qualities of it only serve to show just how bad the whole thing is. And for Bob, that one movie is BvS, a movie that should have been good, but it, among other things, tells its story poorly, is painful to watch, and as a comic book movie, it's almost like it's arguing with itself.

thatindiantroper Since: Feb, 2015
#12531: Sep 28th 2017 at 8:27:06 AM

Moviebob saying anything is a ringing endorsement of the exact opposite.

EndlessSea LEGENDARY GALE from oh no you don't Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
LEGENDARY GALE
#12532: Sep 28th 2017 at 8:32:45 AM

So what you're trying to say is that Pixels was a good movie.

but HOW?
thatindiantroper Since: Feb, 2015
#12533: Sep 28th 2017 at 10:35:38 AM

I'm saying that " whoever worked on this movie deserves to lose their fingers " or whatever variation on that he said is psychotic enough that it made me sympathise with Sandler.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#12535: Sep 28th 2017 at 10:43:48 AM

I mean, Bob gave Sucker Punch a positive review and yet has a comical hatred for the ASM movies which while flawed are still not the disasters he exaggerates them to be.

And yeah, I didn't like Pixels but calling "cultural homicide" or whatever nonsensical term he used is the height of Internet fanboy whining. There are far more egregious sins in that movie than how it treats video game characters.

bookworm6390 Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: Abstaining
#12536: Sep 28th 2017 at 11:09:34 AM

I'd still like to know what would happen if DCEU Bruce haf somehow met a different version of Clark. Maybe one that arrived on time instead of years later. Because Clark and Bruce are usually the same age.

thatindiantroper Since: Feb, 2015
#12537: Sep 28th 2017 at 11:27:08 AM

Chipman is the anthropomorphic personification of dumb fanboy ranting.

AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#12538: Sep 28th 2017 at 11:28:55 AM

That doesn't mean he's absolutely wrong.

Have you any dreams you'd like to sell?
thatindiantroper Since: Feb, 2015
#12539: Sep 28th 2017 at 11:35:43 AM

Certainly ,means I'm not giving him the clicks.

Nikkolas from Texas Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#12540: Sep 28th 2017 at 11:42:04 AM

He has good politics. In this world we live in where a lot of Internet Personalities are reactionary shitheads, that is a good thing.

I mean, Dan Olson and Bob both hate the DCEU so far as I know and I obviously disagree with them. But they're not stupid bigots so I respect their opinion. I just feel like they're unfairly labeling the DCEU.

thatindiantroper Since: Feb, 2015
#12541: Sep 28th 2017 at 11:49:30 AM

He confessed to knowing about Devin Farci's creeptastic behaviour but saying nothing when it came to light.

He's a perpetually angry man child and his politics are just another avenue of that.

Dude once compared the " console wars " to Vietnam. He needs help.

Edit: Should probably back away from discussing the reviewer, off topic and what not,

edited 28th Sep '17 11:53:43 AM by thatindiantroper

IFwanderer use political terms to describe, not insult from Earth Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
use political terms to describe, not insult
#12542: Sep 28th 2017 at 4:34:22 PM

Sheeesh... Let the fucking movie die already.

Well... I mean, yeah, it's bad, got it, no need to take potshots at it every month and a half.

1 2 We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be. -KV
thatindiantroper Since: Feb, 2015
#12543: Sep 28th 2017 at 7:18:38 PM

There are actual broken records less repetitive than Chipman.

windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#12545: Oct 5th 2017 at 11:39:34 PM

I don't always agree with moviebob, especially not when it comes to the original Spider-man trilogy, because the nostalgia is strong there and bleeds into everything Spider-man related, but outside of that, he tends to make a good argument and unlike most internet reviewers he actually knows the technical terms. I mean, he made me respect Ghostbusters...I still don't love the movie and most likely never will, but he had a good point about the movie portraying science as the way to defeat ghosts instead of some creepy old priest.

Nikkolas from Texas Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#12546: Oct 6th 2017 at 4:04:10 AM

He did a really good review of The Matrix and so he's cool in my book.

Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#12547: Oct 6th 2017 at 8:34:40 AM

With Wonder Woman, I don’t think it would have been possible to make a dark character, because that’s just not who that character is. You would be completely violating the canon.

What?

If Wonder Woman hadn't already released to favorable reviews I'd be really skeptical of that film right now.

edited 6th Oct '17 8:35:34 AM by Soble

I'M MR. MEESEEKS, LOOK AT ME!
Pannic Since: Jul, 2009
#12548: Oct 9th 2017 at 3:22:30 PM

Having seen the director's cut version, I'll spare giving off the same complaints as everyone else, beyond an "I told ya so" or whatever, because it's been out for a few years and blah blah blah.

But I can't help but notice just how long these movies are. The Director's Cut of this was three hours, and I just think... movies like Les Miserables or Ben-Hur are 2 1/2 to 3 hours because they're epics with a huge scope and stuff. Superhero movies... generally don't exactly have a whole lot of things happening. It just seems like filmmakers and studios are less concerned about economy of storytelling.

And it's not like this is unique to BvS. Even superhero movies that are generally okay still have the same problem. But with this I was just thinking... "why is this three hours long?"

Fanfiction I hate.
AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#12549: Oct 9th 2017 at 3:35:56 PM

A few years? It came out in 2016.

Have you any dreams you'd like to sell?
bookworm6390 Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: Abstaining
#12550: Oct 9th 2017 at 3:59:41 PM

It's been longer in internet years? tongue


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