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RavenWilder Since: Apr, 2009
#7501: Sep 4th 2015 at 11:46:51 PM

Wait, so the word "spaz" is derived from "spasm"? Never knew that.

Even given that, though, how is it offensive? Muscle spasms are an incredibly common occurence that virtually everyone has experienced; why is it a more sensitive subject than sneezing or vomiting?

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#7502: Sep 4th 2015 at 11:53:22 PM

Spastic is a slur for people who suffer from spasms in the UK.

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randomness4 Snow Ghost from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#7503: Sep 5th 2015 at 12:51:05 AM

That sounds unnecessarily pointless as a term, since it seems to only exist as an insult for an actual problem.

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#7504: Sep 5th 2015 at 1:36:28 AM

Let me explain.

  • "Spastic", in medical terms, refers to muscle contraction causing increased tone, as opposed to "flaccid", which is muscle relaxation and reduced tone. (Hence, muscle "spasms".) The term is still used by medical professionals in that context.
  • People with cerebral palsy used to be called "spastics", because brain injury tends to cause spastic paralysis in addition to a host of other functional disabilities. (See also: strokes.) In my country, we actually had a support group for these patients back in the day called the Spastic Children's Association, without insult or irony intended.
  • Since people are terrible, the word ended up being applied as an insult to imply that your subject is physically or mentally incompetent, thereby falling into the same category of terms as "lame", "retarded", and "dumb".
  • And then it was shortened to "spaz".

So that's a brief history of the word.

Derp, on the other hand, just refers to stupidity, with the cross-eyed bit added in later.

edited 5th Sep '15 7:50:00 AM by Pyrite

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Shiningknight S.E.A captain from Professor Xavier's school for gifted lesbians. Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
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#7505: Sep 5th 2015 at 7:18:20 AM

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It may sound pointless but as someone who was relentlessy called.a spastic in primary school...its hurtful and demeaning.

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kyun Since: Dec, 2010
#7506: Sep 5th 2015 at 9:02:11 AM

Not everyone is from the UK.

RhymeBeat Bird mom from Eastern Standard Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
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#7507: Sep 5th 2015 at 9:36:11 AM

But UK citizens are part of Doug's audience. A web reviewer really can't afford to alienate so many viewers. Linkara and Weird Al have made similar errors and apologized.

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Shiningknight S.E.A captain from Professor Xavier's school for gifted lesbians. Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
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#7508: Sep 5th 2015 at 10:04:24 AM

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Not everyone may be from the uk but that doesn't mean we don't exist

But whatever i don't even watch that garbage anyway

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#7509: Sep 5th 2015 at 11:06:07 AM

Treatment of it often varies by region. I recall once the author of Scandinavia and the World writing about a time when she (Humon) was talking about a friend with palsy to another friend from the UK, who was offended at hearing Humon refer to her afflicted friend as spastic. To her (she's Danish but has lived in Sweden and America), spastic was just the word for the condition and Humon was confused, wondering "then what am I supposed to call it?"

edited 5th Sep '15 11:06:58 AM by Tuckerscreator

RavenWilder Since: Apr, 2009
#7510: Sep 5th 2015 at 11:55:46 AM

See, when I hear "spasm", I don't think of cerebral palsy. I think of stuff like a charley horse, or those medical shows where a patient starts thrashing about on their bed and the music gets all dramatic.

Seraphem Since: Oct, 2009
#7511: Sep 5th 2015 at 4:00:27 PM

Or that weird thing your body does sometimes just as your falling asleep where you suddenly just have your arms and legs jerk around and feel like your falling.

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#7512: Sep 5th 2015 at 4:15:29 PM

Thats ones weird its happened before

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Seraphem Since: Oct, 2009
#7513: Sep 5th 2015 at 6:26:56 PM

Apparently it's caused by some deep, reflex based part of your brain registering everything shutting down as you fall asleep, as you dying, and sends every motor nerve it can a jolt to try and jump start you. Or something to that effect.

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#7514: Sep 5th 2015 at 11:59:25 PM

[up]...that's the most bizarre thing I've read all day and that includes Cameron Diaz humping a car. I will never think about midnight twitches in the same way again.

Though actually that's kinda cool, weirdly...

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#7515: Sep 6th 2015 at 4:03:25 AM

aaaaand that description just brought about the paranoia I have for this kind of stuff, thanks

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#7516: Sep 6th 2015 at 5:05:07 PM

On the Smurfs review, I'd like to say that I knew it would be bad when I saw the posters, but that's on a level with seeing rain and predicting it will be wet. I never particularly loved les Schtroumpfs, but they deserve better than that. Hopefully the coming film can feel like a fantasy adventure, and maybe even cameo Johan and Pirluit.

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#7517: Sep 6th 2015 at 9:27:00 PM

New Steven Universe vlog on one of the worst episodes in the series (and they certainly didn't like it, or at least the reasons why it's not exactly the best).

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kkhohoho Since: May, 2011
#7518: Sep 6th 2015 at 9:34:52 PM

[up]Eh, I didn't think it was really that bad. Heck, I don't even mind the relationship between Sadie and Lars. Yes, it's a dysfunctional, abusive relationship and the two of them really shouldn't be together, but like Doug and Rob said, you do see those kinds of relationships in real life, and unlike Doug and Rob, I'm fine with seeing it portrayed this way in SU. It still wasn't a great episode, but it was still okay.

Heatth from Brasil Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
#7519: Sep 6th 2015 at 9:40:46 PM

It is one of my least favorite episodes as well. Mostly because of the rather abrupt ending and the fact it have never been followed up properly. Lars and Sadie relationship can be interesting interesting, but I think it is too complex to be satisfactory with only a few glimpses here and there.

I also think they are just entering the weakest part of the show. The next 4 episodes are all on the weak end of the show, I think. Not that they are awful, I just think the show can be so much better overall. I am curious to see what the two of them will say about them. If they dislike it, it will be funny to see they trying to be careful to not piss of the fans.tongue

edited 6th Sep '15 9:44:32 PM by Heatth

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#7520: Sep 6th 2015 at 11:06:15 PM

I looked up the episode list, to remind myself which ones were next, and yeah, those aren't exactly the strongest episodes in the show. I don't think they're nearly as (relatively) bad as this one is, though. Especially "Garnet's Universe"—that one's pretty damn amusing, and has some of the most subtle foreshadowing this show's ever had.

I guess it doesn't help that run of episodes that the ones immediately following them are pretty consistently good.

edited 6th Sep '15 11:07:13 PM by Odd1

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#7521: Sep 7th 2015 at 12:20:50 AM

Once we hit Lion 3 it's a high quality stretch all the way up to... maybe even the present, this might be the lowest dip the series has.

EDIT: Well accepting Shirt Club. Not fond of that one.

And for the record, Keep Beach City Weird kills a LOT of Ronaldo's likability very very dead and leaves him in a weird place, Fusion Cuisine is funny in concept but the second hand embarrassment makes it cringe inducing, Garnet's Universe is adorable, and I like Watermelon Steven but it's odd and kind of pointless.

edited 7th Sep '15 12:21:45 AM by odafangirl

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#7522: Sep 7th 2015 at 1:04:31 AM

See, I always found Fusion Cuisine to be immensely funny, so I have a hard time figuring out why so many people dislike it. There are a lot of great lines, and the absurdity of the whole thing is amazing.

That said, once we hit Lion 3, the show kicks into overdrive.

I see Ronaldo as more of an object of pity than anything, and I feel his documentary episode lends credence to this viewpoint.

What was some of the foreshadowing in Garnet's Universe?

edited 7th Sep '15 1:05:18 AM by KarkatTheDalek

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Heatth from Brasil Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
#7523: Sep 7th 2015 at 2:53:27 AM

[up][up][up]Garnet Universe is pretty fun, but ultimately too "fillery" for my taste. It is not bad, by any means (none of those episodes are), it is just not as good as the rest of the series.

Lion 3 does indeed kick the show right back on track, though. Almost all episodes after that are great.

SpookyMask Since: Jan, 2011
#7524: Sep 7th 2015 at 6:07:26 AM

@Seraphem: Huh, so that is a thing

Funnily enough, I always forget that that happens sometimes after I have woken up in morning, but I always little freak out when that happens at night xD

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#7525: Sep 7th 2015 at 5:47:33 PM

Karkat: I don't watch the show, but I'm assuming it's something having to do with Garnet already being a fusion.

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