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AngelusNox The law in the night from somewhere around nothing Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
The law in the night
#776: Jul 30th 2016 at 8:43:54 AM

The hypocrisy it burns!

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DrunkenNordmann from Exile Since: May, 2015
#777: Aug 1st 2016 at 4:44:24 AM

Turkey condemns German court for banning Erdoğan video link to rally

There's a pro-Erdogan demonstration of 40,000 people who are to a large part of Turkish nationality and vote in Turkish elections despite living in Germany most of the time - and Gülen's supporters are the ones infiltrating our country?

I don't remember people being threatened over here for criticising Gülen.

edited 1st Aug '16 4:47:18 AM by DrunkenNordmann

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AngelusNox The law in the night from somewhere around nothing Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
The law in the night
#779: Aug 2nd 2016 at 9:38:13 AM

Erdogan is going down the same insanity every autocrat goes eventually.

While most get drunk with power and suffer a hangover, Erdogan is already getting brain damage. He is the last person on Earth allowed to complain about an ally aiding terrorism.

edited 2nd Aug '16 9:39:21 AM by AngelusNox

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#780: Aug 2nd 2016 at 10:19:29 AM

[up][up] Interesting to see the pro-Turkish commenters out in force.

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FFShinra Beware the Crazy Man. from Ivalice, apparently Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
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#782: Aug 2nd 2016 at 4:29:04 PM

the hell? What, Erdogan wanted to throw some games to win a bet or something?

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Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#783: Aug 2nd 2016 at 5:00:53 PM

He's literally firing anyone with the tiniest connection to the Gulenists/the opposition. This is like a non-lethal (mostly, so far) Stalin purge. Its nuts.

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Ogodei Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers from The front lines Since: Jan, 2011
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#784: Aug 3rd 2016 at 7:56:47 AM

I think the key is whether there will be more shows of magnanimity like we've seen so far. Kind of like when a company in the US is trying to fight labor unions at a site, they'll go in and fire everybody, close the site, then open a new site and hire back most of the people except for the major unionists, except here he gets to look merciful to his supporters by giving 80% of those fired educational admins their jobs back.

Others will see it for what it is, but it allows him to put a positive spin on the purges.

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#785: Aug 3rd 2016 at 8:29:03 AM

The bastard already has the domestic support he needs. And NATO won't risk losing Turkey so the rest of the world will only scold him.

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Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
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#786: Aug 3rd 2016 at 11:45:01 AM

Will gamers be the next target of Erdogan's regime?grin http://gawker.com/turkish-reporter-mistakes-gta-iv-cheats-for-secret-coup-1784732111

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AngelusNox The law in the night from somewhere around nothing Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
The law in the night
#787: Aug 3rd 2016 at 12:16:44 PM

This is so fucking stupid to be real, but it is.

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DrunkenNordmann from Exile Since: May, 2015
#788: Aug 3rd 2016 at 2:12:40 PM

Is there another source besides Gawker?

edited 3rd Aug '16 2:14:15 PM by DrunkenNordmann

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MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#789: Aug 3rd 2016 at 5:08:58 PM

Any news on the missing Turkish Navy vessels?

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TerminusEst from the Land of Winter and Stars Since: Feb, 2010
#790: Aug 3rd 2016 at 10:09:46 PM

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None. The last news were from a Daily Beast article. In other words, we don't know if it's true. Even if it was, the Turkish government would probably not talk about it.

edited 3rd Aug '16 10:10:02 PM by TerminusEst

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MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#791: Aug 4th 2016 at 4:03:00 AM

Not even satellite photographic corrobation of them being missing?

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TerminusEst from the Land of Winter and Stars Since: Feb, 2010
#792: Aug 4th 2016 at 4:09:02 AM

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None that anyone will share, such things are even normally kept quiet. There's nothing to go on.

edited 4th Aug '16 4:09:32 AM by TerminusEst

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DeMarquis Who Am I? from Hell, USA Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Buried in snow, waiting for spring
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#793: Aug 4th 2016 at 9:52:40 AM

I'm wondering about the potential for opposition protests.

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DrunkenNordmann from Exile Since: May, 2015
#794: Aug 4th 2016 at 10:45:35 AM

[up] Probably going to be crushed. We already had cases of Erdogan critics being threatened by supporters over here, so what do you think would happen to them in Turkey?

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Ominae Organized Canine Bureau Special Agent Since: Jul, 2010
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#795: Aug 4th 2016 at 5:34:40 PM

The warrant is out, being handled by the GDS for Gulen.

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#796: Aug 5th 2016 at 1:18:47 PM

@Drunken N: That depends on how many of them there are.

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Ogodei Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers from The front lines Since: Jan, 2011
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#797: Aug 5th 2016 at 9:51:37 PM

I'm sure our people have already looked at Gulen's communications and known associates, if only for due diligence purposes.

Plus the US tends to have a dimmer view of extradition when it's politically motivated.

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#798: Aug 5th 2016 at 10:06:04 PM

Or when it involves a dying old man getting summarily executed.

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SabresEdge Show an affirming flame from a defense-in-depth Since: Oct, 2010
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#799: Aug 5th 2016 at 10:19:12 PM

That might well be what stops it. I'd think that Erdogan is so manifestly unlikely to allow a fair trial that the US is legally obliged to refuse extradition.

Plus, does anyone outside Turkey actually think it's the Gulenists? I ask in all seriousness.

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FFShinra Beware the Crazy Man. from Ivalice, apparently Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
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#800: Aug 5th 2016 at 11:38:13 PM

Hell do people even IN Turkey actually think its the Gulenists...

Final Fantasy, Foreign Policy, and Bollywood. Helluva combo, that...

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