Turkey condemns German court for banning Erdoğan video link to rally
There's a pro-Erdogan demonstration of 40,000 people who are to a large part of Turkish nationality and vote in Turkish elections despite living in Germany most of the time - and Gülen's supporters are the ones infiltrating our country?
I don't remember people being threatened over here for criticising Gülen.
edited 1st Aug '16 4:47:18 AM by DrunkenNordmann
Welcome to Estalia, gentlemen.So, apparently Erdogan's now of the opinion that we and the Amis support terrorism.
Seriously, this guy.
Welcome to Estalia, gentlemen.Erdogan is going down the same insanity every autocrat goes eventually.
While most get drunk with power and suffer a hangover, Erdogan is already getting brain damage. He is the last person on Earth allowed to complain about an ally aiding terrorism.
edited 2nd Aug '16 9:39:21 AM by AngelusNox
Inter arma enim silent legesInteresting to see the pro-Turkish commenters out in force.
Keep Rolling Onthe hell? What, Erdogan wanted to throw some games to win a bet or something?
Final Fantasy, Foreign Policy, and Bollywood. Helluva combo, that...He's literally firing anyone with the tiniest connection to the Gulenists/the opposition. This is like a non-lethal (mostly, so far) Stalin purge. Its nuts.
Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.I think the key is whether there will be more shows of magnanimity like we've seen so far. Kind of like when a company in the US is trying to fight labor unions at a site, they'll go in and fire everybody, close the site, then open a new site and hire back most of the people except for the major unionists, except here he gets to look merciful to his supporters by giving 80% of those fired educational admins their jobs back.
Others will see it for what it is, but it allows him to put a positive spin on the purges.
The bastard already has the domestic support he needs. And NATO won't risk losing Turkey so the rest of the world will only scold him.
Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.Will gamers be the next target of Erdogan's regime? http://gawker.com/turkish-reporter-mistakes-gta-iv-cheats-for-secret-coup-1784732111
Certified: 48.0% West Asian, 6.5% South Asian, 15.8% North/West European, 15.7% English, 7.4% Balkan, 6.6% ScandinavianThis is so fucking stupid to be real, but it is.
Inter arma enim silent legesIs there another source besides Gawker?
edited 3rd Aug '16 2:14:15 PM by DrunkenNordmann
Welcome to Estalia, gentlemen.Any news on the missing Turkish Navy vessels?
Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.
None. The last news were from a Daily Beast article. In other words, we don't know if it's true. Even if it was, the Turkish government would probably not talk about it.
edited 3rd Aug '16 10:10:02 PM by TerminusEst
Si Vis Pacem, Para PerkeleNot even satellite photographic corrobation of them being missing?
Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.
None that anyone will share, such things are even normally kept quiet. There's nothing to go on.
edited 4th Aug '16 4:09:32 AM by TerminusEst
Si Vis Pacem, Para PerkeleI'm wondering about the potential for opposition protests.
"We learn from history that we do not learn from history."Probably going to be crushed. We already had cases of Erdogan critics being threatened by supporters over here, so what do you think would happen to them in Turkey?
Welcome to Estalia, gentlemen.The warrant is out, being handled by the GDS for Gulen.
"Exit muna si Polgas. Ang kailangan dito ay si Dobermaxx!"@Drunken N: That depends on how many of them there are.
"We learn from history that we do not learn from history."I'm sure our people have already looked at Gulen's communications and known associates, if only for due diligence purposes.
Plus the US tends to have a dimmer view of extradition when it's politically motivated.
Or when it involves a dying old man getting summarily executed.
Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.That might well be what stops it. I'd think that Erdogan is so manifestly unlikely to allow a fair trial that the US is legally obliged to refuse extradition.
Plus, does anyone outside Turkey actually think it's the Gulenists? I ask in all seriousness.
Charlie Stross's cheerful, optimistic predictions for 2017, part one of three.Hell do people even IN Turkey actually think its the Gulenists...
Final Fantasy, Foreign Policy, and Bollywood. Helluva combo, that...
The hypocrisy it burns!
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