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SomeSortOfTroper Since: Jan, 2001
#301: Jul 15th 2016 at 2:52:17 PM

Erdogan's attempts to use social media to get the civilian population to take to the streets would be maybe more successful if he hadn't been so enthusiastic about shutting down social media to prevent people taking to the streets against him.

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#302: Jul 15th 2016 at 2:52:40 PM

The irony is lost on him, I'm sure.

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Elle Since: Jan, 2001
#303: Jul 15th 2016 at 2:53:16 PM

[up][up][up]Oh, is that why people have been referring to a Sultan then? I was pretty sure Turkey was not (currently) a monarchy, even a figurehead monarchy.

I did know about the leader trying to become a life ruler by having the AKP rewrite the constitution.

edited 15th Jul '16 2:55:32 PM by Elle

Julep Since: Jul, 2010
#304: Jul 15th 2016 at 2:53:23 PM

From Twitter. "Senior US military source tells NBC News that Erdogan, refused landing rights in Istanbul, is reported to be seeking asylum in Germany."

This is the most surrealist thing I have read in a while. This has to be an Onion-like joke.

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#305: Jul 15th 2016 at 2:54:03 PM

A very rough guide to what's going on:

The President, Erdogan and his party, the AKP, are quite forwards with their Islamist ideals. This doesn't gel well with...

...the Turkish military, which doesn't approve of people trying that and has launched coups in the past due to just that. Or the deep state, to be exact.

Any word on the Gulenist influence?

edited 15th Jul '16 2:55:22 PM by Krieger22

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#306: Jul 15th 2016 at 2:54:31 PM

Yes, "Sultan" is a derogatory term for Erdogan given the latter's dictatorial ambitions.

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Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#307: Jul 15th 2016 at 2:57:01 PM

[up][up]The only word on that is coming from Erdogan. I profess skepticism - Gulen really isn't the couping sort.

theLibrarian Since: Jul, 2009
#308: Jul 15th 2016 at 2:59:46 PM

I just hope this is a secular coup and not one by radical jihadists. We've got more than enough of that crap in the Middle East right now, and if the bridge between the ME and Europe goes the same way Europe is gonna flip out.

edited 15th Jul '16 3:00:05 PM by theLibrarian

nnokwoodeye1 Since: May, 2012
#309: Jul 15th 2016 at 3:00:31 PM

I don't get it, why was Erdogan denied landing? If the military has taken over the airport wouldn't they want him to land so they could arrest him? Would be a lot harder for anti-coup forces to fight back then.

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Not likely. Turkey was a very secular state until recently and the pro Muslim forces there likes Erdogan

edited 15th Jul '16 3:05:14 PM by nnokwoodeye1

Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#310: Jul 15th 2016 at 3:01:06 PM

[up][up]Ease your fears. The Turkish military is absolutely not jihadist - they're Turkey's self-appointed guardians of secularism and constitutional democracy. (In other words, they're like the guys running Egypt right now.)

edited 15th Jul '16 3:01:18 PM by Ramidel

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#311: Jul 15th 2016 at 3:01:29 PM

Was he denied landing from Germany too?

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#312: Jul 15th 2016 at 3:02:29 PM

Too much risk of martyrization. Radical islamist elements don't exist in the Turkish military as far as I know, and it ain't plausible either.

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#313: Jul 15th 2016 at 3:02:44 PM

Apparently, yes.

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Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#314: Jul 15th 2016 at 3:02:59 PM

Maybe they think him being in exile would bring less blowback than him being held hostage (creating a "prince in the tower" situation) or dead (making him a martyr and a symbol for his supporters to rally around)?

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edited 15th Jul '16 3:03:12 PM by Rationalinsanity

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#315: Jul 15th 2016 at 3:04:05 PM

Live feed from Sky news

Rumors are that the US bases in Turkey are in β€œForce Protection Condition Delta" due to the coup.

Liveleak: videos from Turkey.

More Liveleak.

Choppers firing rounds on the Turkish intelligence service.

edited 15th Jul '16 3:04:52 PM by AngelusNox

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#316: Jul 15th 2016 at 3:04:42 PM

In that case, it was the other way around,

I was talking about the second Egyptian coup, not the first one.

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Elle Since: Jan, 2001
#317: Jul 15th 2016 at 3:04:48 PM

Also he'd be partly cut off from his resources to mound a resistance to the coup.

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#318: Jul 15th 2016 at 3:06:28 PM

And no nation he'd find refuge in has much inclination to restore him.

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Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#320: Jul 15th 2016 at 3:07:32 PM

Turkish Armed Forces appear to be divided in their loyalties - some are pro-Peace Council, some support the Sultan. General Dundar, First Army, is currently leader of the anti-coup forces (or at least is the most identifiable one).

Explosion from TRT headquarters reported.

It's on.

[up]If Russia tried, the army would unite against him and them then and there.

edited 15th Jul '16 3:09:52 PM by Ramidel

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#322: Jul 15th 2016 at 3:09:45 PM

People are supposedly taking over tanks in the streets, Russia 1991-style, but the question is if the demonstrators won't get swamped by counter-demonstrators meaning that the military won't have to make the choice of "back down or risk massacre".

Wild stuff though. Never would have seen it coming.

Apparently Germany denied Erdogan landing rights too? It would be hilarious if so. He's about to learn just how little anyone outside of Turkey itself actually likes him.

edited 15th Jul '16 3:12:20 PM by Ogodei

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#323: Jul 15th 2016 at 3:09:47 PM

I can see from here the grins of every Greek citizen over this new mess in Turkey.

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Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#324: Jul 15th 2016 at 3:13:13 PM

The last thing the world needs right now is a Turkish Civil War...

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Elle Since: Jan, 2001
#325: Jul 15th 2016 at 3:13:21 PM

[up][up][up]I gather that stuff was coming to a point over the last few years where something had to give one way or another.

edited 15th Jul '16 3:13:32 PM by Elle


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