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SabresEdge Show an affirming flame from a defense-in-depth Since: Oct, 2010
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#251: Oct 19th 2015 at 11:12:39 AM

The Plot against the Generals: Dani Rodrik's reflections on playing sleuth for several years to clear his father-in-law's name. The charges? An attempted coup against the Turkish government in 2003, the trials for which helped catapult Erdogan into power. As even Erdogan and his supporters admit, the trials were a sham.

edited 19th Oct '15 11:12:43 AM by SabresEdge

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amateur55 Since: Jun, 2012
#252: Nov 3rd 2015 at 2:27:19 PM

[up] This paper sums up what happened in Turkish politics in the last decade perfectly. A must-read for anyone who wants to have an idea about how Erdoğan suddenly (!) turned into a dictator when he was the shining beacon of Islamic moderation.

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#253: Nov 3rd 2015 at 3:22:55 PM

[up] With his background I'm surprised that people are actually surprised.

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Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#255: Jul 15th 2016 at 1:14:59 PM

BBC is reporting possible gunshots in the capital as well as military aircraft over head.

Do we have a coup in progress?

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Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#256: Jul 15th 2016 at 1:17:37 PM

[up] That's what it's looking like. The Turkish government is currently downplaying the severity of the situation, but that's to be expected. It'll probably be at least a few hours before we know what's really going on.

Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#257: Jul 15th 2016 at 1:20:42 PM

The Turkish PM denounced the acts as illegal.

Things are going to get quite complicated.

edited 15th Jul '16 1:21:02 PM by Rationalinsanity

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Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#258: Jul 15th 2016 at 1:30:55 PM

I hope this is one of the "good" variety of military coups that Turkey has periodically.

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#259: Jul 15th 2016 at 1:31:00 PM

They're denying that it's a coup but admitting that military actions is being taken outside the chain of command.

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TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
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#260: Jul 15th 2016 at 1:32:09 PM

So I heard that a coup was going on. Against Erdogan? Resecularization?

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#261: Jul 15th 2016 at 1:33:05 PM

The news outlets on my end report a failed military coup in both Istanbul and Ankara. Confirmation?

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Greenmantle V from Greater Wessex, Britannia Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Hiding
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#262: Jul 15th 2016 at 1:33:44 PM

Not clear yet.

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Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#263: Jul 15th 2016 at 1:35:16 PM

Ugh. A coup would be bad. Under Erdogan? A failed coup would be worse.

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#264: Jul 15th 2016 at 1:37:41 PM

Erdogan isn't even in the country atm. So he is going to get away either way.

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#265: Jul 15th 2016 at 1:38:16 PM

Oh boy.Erdogan's gonna root himself even tighter.

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Ramidel Since: Jan, 2001
#266: Jul 15th 2016 at 1:40:46 PM

[up][up]Yeah, but if he beats a coup, he has a clear shot at purging his enemies and instituting new restrictions on other enemies.

Greenmantle V from Greater Wessex, Britannia Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Hiding
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#267: Jul 15th 2016 at 1:41:00 PM

There's a video about of a F-16 flying on the deck over Istanbul. Looks like it's on.

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#268: Jul 15th 2016 at 1:41:31 PM

Would have to wait to see if the coup has failed or not. So far they've managed to take over the state broadcaster TRT and the Turkish military has announced they've taken over. It doesn't necessarily mean they have accomplished that but it does mean they're very confident.

EDIT: Bizarrely, TRT is now showing a documentary about Azerbaijan.

edited 15th Jul '16 1:43:35 PM by MayuZane

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#269: Jul 15th 2016 at 1:51:11 PM

Turkish military are saying they've taken over "for democratic order".

β€œAnd the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael β€œIf the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
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LogoP Party Crasher from the Land of Deep Blue Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: You can be my wingman any time
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#271: Jul 15th 2016 at 1:57:07 PM

Facebook, Twitter and You Tube have been blocked. It appears that the putsch has been initiated by lower-level military officials. This revolting army faction just made an announcement saying that 'the military is in control of the government right now'. Unconfirmed info claims that Erdogan is in Bodrum at the moment,

I'm in Komotini so I hope the situation doesn't get any uglier.

edited 15th Jul '16 2:09:23 PM by LogoP

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TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
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#272: Jul 15th 2016 at 2:00:32 PM

A little bit early to call them "revolting" yet, is it?

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#273: Jul 15th 2016 at 2:03:56 PM

[up][up]I don't think they'll be able to bother with us much yet.Gotta establish power first.

Of course,attacking us could also net them some points soooo....better see how those loans spent well worked out,right?

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Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#274: Jul 15th 2016 at 2:07:08 PM

If it is lower ranking officers, what the chances that the Generals will jump in? If only to avoid the coup failing and getting fired/jailed/shot by the Sultan for failing to control the Janissaries?

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Greenmantle V from Greater Wessex, Britannia Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Hiding
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#275: Jul 15th 2016 at 2:08:42 PM

[up] That's probably the Plan. The Coup wouldn't have been launched without the approval of the "Deep State".

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