Is college worth the cost?

I wish though college education here wasn't too free. Too much art majors with weird degrees instead of qualified workers. I'm BA myself, but I at least picked degree with future and found employment recently as a translator.

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Hmmm...what is the economic climate like there? All I've seen is too many workers for to few jobs.

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Back in the good old days the government would actually pay people to go to enrolled in courses in key industries. It's hard to believe now.

edited 1st Jun '13 2:49:01 PM by joeyjojo

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I don't think it's a great idea to go to 4 year right away unless you have the money for it already or need a degree for what your doing, but if you can't find a job either I don't know what else you could do.

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That's the whole idea. In the business world now, profit (rather than productivity) rules all, and precisely the same legal friction put in place in order to obliterate free market competition also drags efficiency down to the point where employers only want to hire perfect corporate drones with no personality or ethics. The only people who care about the lack of realistic job positions are the people without jobs, and no matter how many of those there are, in the current system they're simply not the ones who get to write legislation.

We're living in a society where there are more highly educated people than ever before, doing nothing because the law doesn't let them do anything.

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I'm wondering how much use my degree with be worth once I'm done, I'm doing Politics and International Relations (with my module focus being on the IR stuff). Which means my job prospects are limited to working for a think tank, a political party or getting into the civil service.

So to answer the question, it depends on the viability of your degree. In some fields you need it just to be competitive while in others you need it to even be uncompetitive.

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Journalism? You could be chained to radiators from Beirut to Beijing! Or sight-see in sunny Homs...

edited 1st Jun '13 3:38:27 PM by Achaemenid

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Uh... way to sell it... >_<

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Maybe, I sure am good at talking... and god knows both IR and domestic politics are full of scandals that could be uncovered.

I admit I'm leaning towards the Civil Service, mainly because I'd like to be able to help effect events, and one can do that big time in government. I doubt I'd make a good politician, I talk to much and am far to open about both my past and my opinions.

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he came from a different era though. Today's people think of phone hacking scandals and lunchtime bloggers when they think of journalists.

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Some journalists maybe. I still think "I'm a war correspondent" carries a lot more respect than "I'm a political journalist".

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Yeah, it's something I've thought about. I'd want a job where I was able to feel like I was making a difference to events much bigger then me, which investigative reporting on conflicts that no one is paying attention to, would do.

"And the Bunny nails it!" ~ Gabrael "If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we." ~ Cyran

Yeah war correspondent still pack some credit.

edited 1st Jun '13 6:42:34 PM by joeyjojo

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Speaking as someone who went to college for a year and a half before being forced to drop out due to being unable to pay any further, no, college was not worth it. I gave up a fairly well-paying job with a decently fast promotion track in a field that pretty much always needs workers (mechanic for construction machinery) to go to college and then drop out due to being poor. And by then my old job was no longer available.

Since I'm still in college I don't think I can accurately say it whether or not was worth the cost, (Though since Hunter is dirt cheap my FAFSA and TAP more or less pay for everything.) but when I look at how my dad got screwed over once he got laid off despite his decades of experience due to his lack of a college degree I definitely believe I'd rather have a degree than be without one.

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I think the basic problem is the way the job market is, College isnt worth it, but neither is not having college. because either way you're kinda screwed.

I think the best thing to do is if you can find a college or summer job and save the money so you can pay off your student loans easier.

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Right now, I want to become a full-time novelist. Partly it's because it's my passion, but while initial wages suck, degrees are a non-factor in the profession (publishers want a novel that sells, not a college degree), and it beats being unemployed.

The problem is the income aspect...and that involves getting a part-time job.

Hey, at least I have connections through my parents that I can use.

Well, it depends. Is all you care about with regards to college coming out with something that will make you money? Probably not. If, however, you care primarily about learning rather than money, then it is of course worth it.

Learning is awesome, but you don't need to go college to learn or have those experiences. Not that I would fault somebody for going but it'd be better to not break the bank for it when you might not have a way to pay off the loans.

It's possible to take a two year degree and still have dorms, meal plans and everything, you have to search for it though.

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Not in all subjects it isnt. 2 year degrees usually at best cover most of the basic sciences/math/history as 2 year programs outside technical schools are designed to prep you for 4 year schools.

edited 2nd Jun '13 3:41:46 PM by Midgetsnowman

Hmm...good point. For some subjects it may work though as long as it's a decent school they can probably have video or art projects for you to do and Internships, (hopefully paid).

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Generally, the only art classes my local 2 year college offered were basic foundations courses in the big 4 studio art disciplines. (Painting, Illustration, Ceramic, Sculpture)

My local two year college offers some pretty good film courses and a whole major for it. But it's non-computer art courses for graphic design are pretty limited.

You do have a good point, but maybe it could help to learn the basic's quickly so you can teach yourself easier? For some people it may work.

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