Rio 2

Not much in terms of spoilers.

One spoiler, really. If you want to talk spoilers, you should have seen this b-roll video on youtube (it's been taken down now, unfortunately).

So guys, I recently added the trope Character Development to both Blu and Jewel's parts of the Rio character page. Can you tell me what individual character development do those two go through in the movie? By individual, I mean what Blu goes through and what Jewel goes through.

edited 22nd Mar '14 7:16:35 AM by darklord2216

Based on the Art of book that consists of both movies, I think there may be a travel montage with a stylized map to show that Rio de Janeiro is not next door to the Amazon.

So guys, I recently added the trope Character Development to both Blu and Jewel's parts of the Rio character page. Can you tell me what individual character development do those two go through in the movie? By individual, I mean what Blu goes through and what Jewel goes through.

and also do Blu and Jewel become Fire-Forged Friends? If so, is it Downplayed or played straight? Because once they escape the smugglers and find shelter, they gradually become a lot less hostile toward one another, even being friendly towards each other on occasion, even before their dance.

If you could please answer both questions, That would be great!

edited 22nd Mar '14 9:08:36 PM by darklord2216

I'll check the page within the next 24 hours.

Done!

I think I improved some things.

It's amazing how many stereotypes this movie and its predecessor continue to use when we're in 2014 and when one of the actual directors of the movie was Brazillian.

Mein freund, it IS 2014, and you cannot avoid predictability in mainstream media anymore. All types of characters have been done.

Unless you want underground experimental controversial animation. They still explore new and occasionally interesting ideas.

... I'm talking about stereotypes regarding Brazil and its population.

The goddamn Brazillian birds speak fluent English without an ounce of Brazillian- I mean, some of the birds have accents, why don't any of them have an accent from the country they're from?

And all the samba and butts and Carnival and butts and the jeitinho brasileiro and people getting tricked by fucking monkeys? Are you serious?!

You know the language thing is for convenience? It's the same in most other animated films.

edited 26th Mar '14 9:02:23 PM by Shota

Besides, the director of both films is Brazilian. Be lucky it is accurate at all.

To "add" to the conversation, I live in New York (Long Island) and almost no one has the same accent. That is due to SO MUCH immigration, and people moving from other states to here, as well as away. Melting pot indeed...

Yet there's a Brazillian actor speaking perfectly understandable English in the movie.

Hey, I know it sounds weird, but we can speak English. Do you know Princess and the Frog? The prince guy was also Brazillian.

Accurate? I'm sorry, did we watch the same movie? Because if there's one thing Rio is not, it's accurate.

For one, the two human characters would be dead the moment they started messing with the whole animal trade. Crime is a really serious problem here in Brazil. Serious as in 'you touch it, you'll most likely die'. Watch Elite Squad, that's accurate (but then again, it is a crime movie).

Also, if it's so accurate, why are there no hobos or homeless kids on the street doing circus stuff so you'll give them money? Because that's more probable in Brazil than women wearing extremely revealing clothes on Carnaval (you know those people on the beach? most of the times, they're tourists) or soccer.

Speaking of, they sure spend a lot of time going on and on about samba, don't they? Would it surprise you if I told you that not even the people who professionally live off samba are that addicted to it?

edited 27th Mar '14 4:44:08 AM by Stratofarius

...really?? Which character is this?? I do not remember such a character. -_-

Wow! You think I DON'T KNOW THAT WE SPEAK ENGLISH!?!?!? WHOO-DE-LALI! HERE I THOUGHT WE WERE JUST SPEAKING PIG LATIN ALL THIS TIME!!!!

Uuuuu no. The prince in Princess and the Frog was not Brazilian. He came from the ficticious kingdom of Maldonia.

You're looking too deep into a film that isn't the same genre you want it to be. This is a G-rated family film. Of course there is no way they'll get away with showing all those things in the film!!

edited 27th Mar '14 7:48:42 AM by kyun

G-rated all-ages animated films are SERIOUS BUSINESS, didn't you know?

And it's SERIOUS BUSINESS for them to take out all the violence, oppression, crime, fanservice, and profanity.

edited 27th Mar '14 9:05:20 AM by kyun

At least they didn't show the Rio Carnival like a Mardi Gras-like street parade and actually knew about the Sambadrome. Granted, they would never allow a poorly made chicken float that was clearly not made by a Samba school to join in the parade but still...

edited 27th Mar '14 9:49:14 AM by DS9guy

I'm not looking too deep into a movie that chose to have the animal trade as one of its subplots. You can't say "I'm going to have my movie talk about an extremely serious subject" and then just water it down to turn them into cartoony villains because it's passing the wrong message. They could have gone a thousand other ways (just throw in some generic rich dude who wants the bird) that didn't include crime and violence.

We're talking about a city where a kid trying to steal a bike was beaten up by civillians and left naked and tied to a post... only to be found one week and a half later trying to steal again. It's not kids movie material.

The actor was.

edited 27th Mar '14 12:07:46 PM by Stratofarius

So? Non-Asian actors voiced Chinese characters in Mulan.

edited 27th Mar '14 12:44:11 PM by DS9guy

Guys, we're kind of going off topic here, I mean this post is about Rio 2. We should be talking about the plot, the characters, the setting, the message, the movie itself here, or at least something to do with it. I know most of my questions and posts here have been mostly about the first movie, and your probably call me hypocrite. Rio 1 however, has obviously a ton to do with this sequel (other than it being the sequel), including how the characters started out in the first film, how they developed, and their relationships with one another.

edited 27th Mar '14 3:58:50 PM by darklord2216

Every city of every country of every time period in the history of humanity has a darker underbelly. Should Cinderella comment on the fact the Beast will later be beheaded in the French Revolution? Or Mulan about the batshit insane genocidal Emperors who lived in that time period? Or Lion King about the fact Mufasa presumably had to maul and kill the previous "king" and murder his children (if we're going by actual lion behavior)? Or

Nothing in real life is as a matter of fact actually kid-friendly. Everything is toned down in some form.

Your other complaints (the excess of focus on samba and such) I agree with, but you can't possibly hope they will portray the violence and gruesome life of the darker side of Rio.

And if you want to get techinical, animal smugglers tend to be relatively speaking small-time criminals in Brazil (speaking as someone who lives there, same as you), not nearly as violent or as psychotic as drug smugglers. Portraying them as buffoons is hardly a stretch of imagination.

You are a smurt prsn.

@Stratofarious: I think I have something you will enjoy. It's a realistic animated film about violence in South America throughout the ages. Go watch it and be happy! :)

If this doesn't have any fanservicey shots of Linda, then it's not worth watching.