Needs Help: Best Before Decade

All good points, so I agree. Should this trope include ID's as well, like if someone is using a driver's licensee from over 20 years ago with a younger picture and dressed in the style of another decade?

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That not only doesn't sound like the same trope at all, I could swear we already have that somewhere...? Hrm.

That seems a bit different. If someone looks at a license and then says "This expired in 1994!" that's this trope, but the focus on the license and the younger character seems a different kind of joke.

I agree with Amy and Leaper. Fire Extinguishers and the like = yes. Driver's license = not the same.

Seems like overall, we have a consensus for a name change and expanding the definition. Anyone oppose?

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Not from me

I know I'm late to the party, but wasn't this specifically what YKTTW Crash Rescue is for?

Support a name change, but oppose expanding. Seeing a person eating expired food/drink has a specific connotation of "that stuff could kill you!" You do not get the same connotations with expired dates in general.

edited 19th May '13 7:24:19 AM by Stratadrake

An Ear Worm is like a Rickroll: It is never going to give you up.

Madrugada sent us here, because the fix is a plain rename.

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The name's fine. I vote keep it the way it is.

How is it fine? It is awkward and uninformative.

Are there any other suggestions for names? Way Past Expiration seems to be ahead, but there were a few others with support...

edited 20th May '13 5:28:59 PM by Larkmarn

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In what way is it even remotely "awkward and uninformative"?

Best Before Decade is hard to understand from the trope title alone. It doesn't make any sense. Decade? What decade? Is it best before a decade from now? Is a previous decade the best? At least Best Before Twenty Years Ago clarifies the meaning, even if it is too specific.

edited 22nd May '13 9:46:23 AM by Rethkir

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Because "decade" is an unhelpful frame of reference. The trope title could mean the expiration date is a decade old, or a decade in the future, or is listed as a decade rather than something more specific. Several people who have posted in this thread (myself included) did not understand the name at first. That is a pretty solid hint that it's not intuitive.

My thoughts on the matter are best summed up in the post I made in the discussion section of the main article, which I will now copy and past here:

Best Before Decade was one of the suggested names. There was no sign of there being any consensus on the naming, so as the author of the YKTTW, I just picked one. Initially I didn't want to change the name at all, but instead I compromised and went with the name that I felt was closest the spirit of the original. But it seems no matter what someone's going to take issue with whatever name we give this trope, so whatever.

It would have been advisable to wait until some consensus was reached on the name, and until it had five "hats" indicating readiness for launch.

This name sounds like a bad compromise that pleased nobody, and now it needs a rename.

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Well there you go. Since there was no sign of consensus on the name, you should have waited for one. Instead, we're now here creating a consensus on the name, and so far that consensus appears to be that the current name is not good.

edited 22nd May '13 9:52:12 AM by Spark9

Rhetorical, eh? ... Eight!

The reason I chose the name I did was because it was the closest to capturing the spirit of my original name. Please keep this in mind, if you absolutely MUST create a new name.

Noted.

Any other suggestions for names? Way Past Expiration still seems to be ahead, but Best Before Twenty Years Ago was mentioned.

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Would it be better to name it something like 'Way Past Expiration' Joke? 'Cause this seems more like a specific joke instead of "this thing is obscenely expired but it's relevant anyways".

Best Before Twenty Years Ago was what I wanted to call it to begin with. I changed it to Best Before Decade as a result of pressure from the YKTTW page. The reason I choose Best Before Decade was because of all the names suggested on the YKTTW page, it was the closest to the spirit of the original name. My vote is either keep it as it is, or change it to Best Before Twenty Years Ago.

^^Possibly, though that sacrifices some conciseness and wit. The page does already see some misuse e.g. Fallout, where all food is old but which doesn't use this joke, Garfield, where John drinks milk slightly after the expiration date without using this joke.

Yeah, a good number of the examples just seem to be "expired" rather than "expired for a comically implausible amount of time".

Really from Jupiter, but not an alien.

Whoa, that also means it shares every problem the original name might have had. You may as well be saying "I'm the only one who knows what the best name for this trope is." So hop off that horse and join the discussion.

YKTTW namestorming isn't like renaming tropes; you try to find the best moniker for the concept, and how it compares to what the OP was initially thinking is flatout irrelevant.

edited 23rd May '13 6:36:06 AM by Stratadrake

An Ear Worm is like a Rickroll: It is never going to give you up.

Comically Past Expiration might help reinforce that this is when the expiration is a joke?

But Tropes Are Flexible. What about that one Goosebumps book ("My Hairiest Adventure", I think?) where they found this spray-on tan stuff that expired 15 years prior, and the results were more horrifying than comical? There was still that "woah, this expired a long time ago" moment.