Disney/Pixar In General

Thing is,that's a different mouse to them,their beloved Micky mouse behaves entirely differently.

I think Micky something like a sacred icon to them,putting him in any old cartoon isn't enough,it has to great,it has to be the perfect Micky mouse fillm,a bad cartoon could tarnish the micky mouse brand,and no one wants that,

edited 29th Nov '16 3:06:18 PM by Ultimatum

They're executives, as well. What interest would they have in picking up a book of old 30s newspaper comics?

That, plus they've probably never heard of them. Disney comics, after all, are kind of a cult thing in America - a cult sizable enough to ensure reprints of the entirety of Barks and Gottfredson, but still a cult thing anyhow.

edited 29th Nov '16 3:07:37 PM by Aldo930

I think explains when Mickey never gets used for anything unless your name is Nomura. He's too iconic for his own good.

The problem with that is, though, that you end up with a large segment of the population that has only ever seen Mickey on merchandise, rather than as a character.

Eh, the current cartoons show they aren't afraid putting Mickey through the comedy wringer anymore.

The problem with Mickey's action comics is they mostly belong to an European tradition along the lines of stuff like Tintin and Spirou, one that doesn't traditionally fly too well in the American comics market, where it's either superheroes, horror, or straight comedy for the most part.

And thus why the Disney comics are still very, very popular and still being made over in Europe. The comics IDW is putting out these days are full of stories originally written in Italy and Denmark.

Still, just because nobody's ever tried to do Mickey as Gottfredson did him doesn't mean nobody should try it. Who's to say it couldn't work?

(Horror and straight comedy aren't really that much of a presence on the American comic book rack anymore - well, not as much as it once was, anyhow. But the point still stands.)

edited 29th Nov '16 4:32:11 PM by Aldo930

Isn't the Walking Dead comics series one of America's biggest sellers now? I thought it was.

There's more non-superhero stuff in American comics now than at any time since the Golden Age, and it's on the rise these days. Not so much in classic comic book format, though, more in manga-style collections or graphic novel form. There's especially an emphasis on graphic novels for young readers now, so maybe we'll see more adventurer Mickey in the US.

edited 29th Nov '16 4:43:56 PM by Robbery

Never say never, after all. It could easily happen. The IDW comics they're putting up now, foreign reprint filled though they may be, are a pretty good step in the right direction - in part because you can buy Disney comics outside of the Disney parks these days. (They're also doing Disney graphic novels - look out for Mickey's Inferno coming soon...)

We're also in a pretty good age for reprinting non-superhero stuff as well. You would expect that Barks and Gottfredson's works would be reprinted in full, but the Silly Symphony strips? Al Taliaferro's Donald Duck stuff? Somehow it's happening, and we have to appreciate this moment. (Then again, those are from IDW, which has taken steps to reprint stuff a lot of people have never heard of - Walt Kelly's fairy tale comics, for example.)

edited 29th Nov '16 4:54:21 PM by Aldo930

Mickey has become pretty much the straight man at this point. But that is fine with me, you need those kind of characters, and he still has a mischievous streak. That is why he is my favourite, because the is the smartest character. Not in an annoyingly educated way or focussed on one purpose, but in a street smart way.

As a general rule, when Donald has a bad day it is often because he created the situation himself due to his bad temper. When Mickey has a bad day, it is more like the world is throwing every bad thing possible towards him.

edited 30th Nov '16 11:14:57 AM by Swanpride

Well, overall Donald has it both ways. He always makes things worse for himself, yes, but the world's always tossing crap his way as well, even when Donald's not done technically anything wrong yet.

Then again, it's also a matter of environments. Donald's circle of acquaitances tends to be more poisonous/jerkassery inclined than Mickey's. Even comparing girlfriends, Minnie is much more supportive and agreeable a person than Daisy.

I've always liked Donald's comic book "abrasive and flawed but ultimately decent guy doggedly doing his best as life endlessly throws him crap," because he could be a jerk, heroic or anything in between while keeping the same personality. Plus the balance between the universe hating him and him causing his own problems because of his flaws makes him really relateable.

edited 30th Nov '16 9:12:30 PM by KnownUnknown

True...I mean Mickey has Minnie who is usually very supportive and even pretty kickass when they both end up in an adventure together, while Daisy is always demanding Donald's full attention and often wants to cultivate him. Minnie would never give Mickey's rival Mortimer a second glance, but Donald is supposed to compete all the time with...Gustaf Gans? I am actually not sure how the character is named in English, the one who has always luck, while Donald is always unlucky. Mickey's best friend Goofy is sometimes a little bit stupid, but he also has a very good heart and would do everything for him, while Donald's various in-laws and relatives tend to take advantage of him. (But then, Mickey is also way more patient with Goofy than Donald tends to be).

Now I am really in the mood to watch a few House of mouse episodes.....

Gladstone Gander.

I don't know. I've always thought Mickey was overtly boring, and rooted for Donald and Daisy in comparison. Some people like that there is a middle man, and Mickey does that fine. It would be interesting to see a theatrical release of the clan of 6 though.

Well, I always liked the straight man the best, especially if said straight man is smart....I take Mickey over Donald and Goofy, Captain America (or to be precise Steve Rogers) over every other Avenger including Black Widow, and Jerry over Tom.

Never liked Bugs Bunny, though....

Bugs isn't a real straigh man anyway, too much of a trickster figure for that. In Looney Tunes lore, Porky is the real straight man.

I think that the lack of new Mickey content is due to Disney realizing how powerful the nostalgia goggles are, and that putting him back into something knew has a very high chance of breaking the charm.

Plus, Mickey was a character from shorts, and unlike Donald, his expanded universe never felt like something worthy of a full-length movie.

But there is no lack of new Mickey content.

Actually, from the nineties until now, I'd say Mickey has had more screen presence than Bugs. During that period, Bugs had two motion pictures, true, but one of them was a major flop, the other was more of a Michael Jordan movie, and even so, Mickey technically had Fantasia 2000 too. Other than very scarce cameos in Tiny Toons and a role in that Daffy Duck Christmas Carol OVA no one remembers anymore, Bugs was absent from Warner's TV and home video output (Taz-Mania, Animaniacs, Sylvester & Tweety Mysteries, Duck Dodgers, Freakazoid, Pinky & the Brain...) until very recently with The Looney Tunes Show and Wabbit, which have been both Base Breakers (I mostly like them both, especially Wabbit, BTW). You could make a case for Daffy effectively having more screentime than him over the last few decades.

While Mickey also skipped the nineties (Duck Tales, Goof Troop, Tale Spin, Darkwing Duck, et all) for the most part, he's still got much more of a recent constant media exposure. Mickey Mouseworks, House of Mouse, Three Musketeers, Mickey Mouse's Clubhouse, the Kingdom Hearts franchise, even Epic Mickey, and now the almost generally praised batch of current shorts.

I'd say Mickey's been doing mostly okay for the most part for a few years now.

edited 1st Dec '16 5:05:58 PM by NapoleonDeCheese

The shorts are a real treasure, by the way. Some of the best content Disney has put out in a while now. Some are funnier than others, but all of them have managed to get at least a smile from my face at least once.

I think you're forgetting how Looney Tunes (especially the Bugs shorts) has been in near-constant rotation, usually in an hour-long timeslot on Cartoon Network (and briefly Nick) for the past two decades.

unless you aren't counting reruns of older stuff in which case fair

Yeah, but they rarely air them anymore (if at all) and when they're shown, it's usually when kids are in school.

Since the release of the Golden Collections on DVD and the Platinum Collections on Blu-Ray, Looney Tunes presence on CN has been sporadic. And now, even when they get it, they only get about an hour. They used to be on a lot more often.

unless you aren't counting reruns of older stuff in which case fair

I wasn't.

They do still air it on Boomerang iirc. And to be honest, they aired it during school hours years back too, so I don't see much difference now.

Ah, okay.