LGBTQ+ Rights Worldwide

This thread is fine for the discussion, as in fact, as C4 News have been bigging up, the first gay marriages in England wil be taking place tomorrow night! One of the first couples is filming theirs as a musical, which C4 are broadcasting on Monday night.

Awesome that Channel Four are doing that!

...Musical wedding. <awestruck> That would either work brilliantly... or bomb horribly. It entirely depends on the singing voices of the "cast".

The officiator just has to be a bass if male. Alto if female.

edited 27th Mar '14 2:10:34 PM by Euodiachloris

They decried the notion that it being camp is a bad thing - they said that marriage is the campest thing a straight guy can do. I recommend watching the segment on 4OD for those who have access to it, really interesting stuff.

Oh, this guy.

Kind of funny how he says he has no friends in the media and yet one of our big newspapers is publishing this.

I see this wasn't posted already: India court recognises transgender people as third gender. From the same Supreme Court that did reinstall a sodomy law a while ago.

Maybe it's me imposing my Western sensibilities on the subject, but how does that work?

Presumably there's just now a third little box to check on all the forms

I mean like...non-binary gender is okay to them, but same-sex relationships they have to stamp out? Usually in the West people with a vendetta against sexual minorities are even more unreasonable towards gender minorities. Having trouble wrapping my brain around the thought process here.

edited 15th Apr '14 10:12:12 PM by Morgikit

Remember that highest courts don't just get to choose based on their personal opinions or logic. They normally have to e.g. be mindful of the prerogatives of the legislature vs. the courts, and if I remember right, the previous gay decision was more like 'This is the clear intent of the law, it's the legislature's job to fix it if it needs fixing'.

Also, the subcontinent has a culture that actually has accepted the possibility of more than two genders for centuries (with varying degrees of coverage). Technically, if you're in a relationship with a third-gendered... it isn't a same-sex relationship.

Whatever the plumbing involved.

edited 15th Apr '14 10:35:24 PM by Euodiachloris

It may also be different judges who wrote the winning decision.

Confirmed, it was, and the sodomy ruling is going to a five judge panel.

edited 22nd Apr '14 7:51:34 AM by occono

http://joemygod.blogspot.com/2014/04/russia-fingerprint-hiv.html

it's easy to get away with a lot of civil right abuse under the name of 'disease control'.

Didn't they try to do stuff like that back in the 80s? Or am I thinking of something else?

UK ranked top in Europe for LGBT rights for the third year in a row.

We got 82%! Predictably, the Russians came last, with a measly 6%. LGBT rights improved in 18 out of 28 EU member states as well as, encouragingly, in prospective members Serbia and Montenegro.

Rule Britannia!

edited 14th May '14 12:19:02 PM by Achaemenid

How did Russia get even 6%?

I assume because it's not outright illegal, Uganda-style?

I wonder what a 100% would look like?

Russia got its score for managing to provide "Medically assisted insemination (singles)" "trans people can marry a person of the other gender" in the family category and "name change" "change of gender on official documents to match gender identity" "no compulsory surgical intervention required" in the legal gender recognition category.

It's pretty much impossible, as you'd need to have "marriage equality", "registered partnership (similar rights to marriage)" and "registered partnership (limited rights)" across all parts of your country. Though the UK is pretty close to getting as high as you can, it's just lacking laws on "equality and non-discrimination" for gender expression" and "intersex", tougher hate speech laws, marriage equality in all parts, law on asylum based on gender identity, full lack of compulsory divorce in the event of gender transition, and the removal of the requirement for a medical diagnosis/psychological option for gender transition.

edited 19th May '14 12:18:52 AM by Silasw

Northern Ireland lets us down. 'Tis a silly place.

On a positive note though, 26 countries have improved on LGBT rights, and 17 have stayed the same, while only six have scored lower, which means, for the most part, things are moving in the right direction. Unfortunately, my own country was one of the six that went down. DX

It's funny to see how much better LGBT rights get the further west you go.

edited 19th May '14 6:49:04 AM by QueenPanic

I am not particularly impressed by Switzerland's record, there.

Yeah, I'm looking at Switzerland's score now, and I'm surprised it got lower than Ireland. I thought Switzerland was fairly liberal?

I lived in French Switzerland for a couple years, and I found the people to be really conservative. Not insane reactionary conservative like the Tea Party, but conservative all the same.

There was this idea that Swiss culture was being destroyed or something.

Switzerland's location and history lend themselves to isolationism. Do I have to bring out that Elrond quotation again?