Suggestion: Hate At First Sight

It's not really that funny just like that. If I thought it was funny I'd have said go for it. But it's not, so I don't.

Funniness is rather subjective, though, but this is one that's funnier when you read the actual comic.

edited 20th Apr '13 12:27:41 PM by AnotherDuck

[sigh]

The question is not really 'is this funny' here. It's 'is it demonstrative' and 'is it better than the alternative (i.e. better than nothing)', the answer to both of which seems to be yes.

Well, I think "nothing" is highly underrated, but apparently there's a policy decision on the matter.

"Acceptable" is Keep Until Better Image Suggested. "Bad" is it's spinoff, Blank Until Pretty Kickass Image Suggested. The three panels are subtle but good enough for now I say.

It works, and I wouldn't object it being as used as the image...but I personally would like to see the panel with them trying to kill each other thrown in as well.

Uh... is this kickass?

I don't like the image, but its better than nothing.

No, but this isn't the kind of trope where a kinda mediocre image wouldn't cut it.

The image qualifies, but it's pretty mediocre, yes.

edited 20th Apr '13 1:47:58 PM by dRoy

The linked site policy page specifically says "Blank Until Pretty Kickass Image Suggested". If everyone's thinking it's mediocre, shouldn't we leave it blank?

edited 20th Apr '13 2:26:42 PM by Clarste

No. That is for hard to picture pages, not for "mediocre" ones.

Says nothing about that on the page. Although it is quite likely that "kickass" was only chosen so they could spell BUPKIS. It's inconclusive based on that alone.

That's a Predefined Message, not a site policy.

edited 20th Apr '13 2:34:08 PM by Noaqiyeum

Okay, so it's completely meaningless.

If you want site policy, try the top thread at this forum, marked "Thread Reasons, Policies". Among other things, it states that adding a picture to a page that doesn't have one doesn't even require an IP thread. Furthermore, Eddie's mail mentioned above (paraphrased: "hey guys, don't set your standards too high") is de facto policy as well.

So it's not a big deal if one out of our 9001 zillion pages gets an image that is less than perfect. Really.

I'll just chime in and say that the 2-panel versions are mostly not good, because most of them cut out the panel that establishes them as first meeting.

Reading the discussion here has convinced me pulling panels from OotS is not a good idea for a trope image.

Reading this thread is driving me to drink.

All I can think

Does the hatred have to be mutual or does the trope include a one-sided hatred?

If the latter, could the first four pics of this page (Fighter declaring them best friends up to Black Mage trying to stab him) of Eight Bit Theater work?

edited 20th Apr '13 6:41:28 PM by peasant

I think one-sided counts, but the stabbing is off panel and I think that's a strike against it.

It's good to have another option but this doesn't tell me that they just met and I don't see the being stabbed. "Tink" isn't near as clear as "What part of being stabbed do you not understand?" on the next line.

The general idea is that if enough tropers believe that the image is saying something (instead of Just A Face And A Caption) and isn't harming the page then it should be used. Are we going to have a crowner with "blank" being an option?

Eddie's objection to leaving pages imageless was that acceptable page images were being pulled without being replaced by something better; without being replaced at all, in fact, leaving pages that previously had an acceptable-but-not-great image imageless.

It was not a mandate to put an image on every age regardless of how good it is. A poor page image is worse than leaving the page imageless.

And Spark, "the default" is "whatever was there when the discussion was started", not "throw up an image, any image".

Okay, given that, should we take a vote or something? The proposed image seems to have a number of both supporters and detractors.

Ok, this is me without the mod hat, just being a regular poster. I don't think either suggestion is good.

The OOTS one does not, to me, indicate that the two characters "despise each other from the first moment they meet, often before they've even really had a chance to get to know each other" (and that's a direct quote from the trope description.) It's pretty clear that they aren't inclined to like each other, but that's a long way from "despise each other".

The 8-Bit Theatre one, well, the reason I don't like that one is twofold: First, I don't think that the art style lends itself to good page images in general; the sprite style renders the characters too blobby to be clear what they're doing. Second, but related: it's all in the words.

I vote both of the proposed images down, and suggest that we keep looking. There must be a good image out there somewhere.