I ate meat on Ash Wednesday. Is that bad?
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Yeah, it is. Don't beat yourself up for it, I've failed in that regard as well during the time I was at college.
Most Orthodox people seem to do it differently, interestingly enough:
edited 12th Feb '16 7:12:25 AM by Quag15
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I remember in my school once I was berated for eating after communion (some skittles)
I did not even know you couldnt do that
It has always been the prerogative of children and half-wits to point out that the emperor has no clothes
Yeah, it is. Don't beat yourself up for it, I've failed in that regard as well during the time I was at college.
That's always been a problem with me. I can't tell if stuff like violating abstinence counts as a sin.
I still consider myself a practicing Catholic though I don't tend to go to the church (because large gatherings make me uneasy, so I prefer) and I have an absolutely terrible sense of time, so it's hard for me to get the dates I'm not supposed to eat meat. Though I was saved by the proverbial bell on ash wesnesday because people reminded me, but I oftentimes tend to just not notice it.
"All you Fascists bound to lose."
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I am not opposed to the idea of a god, just of one who requires my presence every sunday.
I mean, get with the times god, log distance working and relatioships are pretty normal nowadays. Get a facebook account or something.
It has always been the prerogative of children and half-wits to point out that the emperor has no clothes
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On the subject of the Orthodox, isn't the Pope going to meet with the leader (Partiarch?) of the Russian Orthodox Church in Cuba soon, their first (official) meeting since the 11th Century?
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Yes, they are going to meet each other at the airport in Havana, iirc. I don't know the rest of the program/meeting, though.
edited 12th Feb '16 8:28:32 AM by Quag15
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Pope, patriarch urge Christian unity at historic talks
"For nearly one thousand years, Catholics and Orthodox have been deprived of communion in the Eucharist," they said in a joint declaration signed after talks in Cuba.
"We are pained by the loss of unity, the outcome of human weakness and of sin."
It was the first meeting between the heads of the Eastern and Western churches since the great schism of 1054 when the churches split apart, with the Eastern church rejecting the authority of Rome.
"Mindful of the permanence of many obstacles, it is our hope that our meeting may contribute to the re–establishment of this unity willed by God," the church leaders said.
Their meeting was driven by rising violence in recent years in the Middle East, where Christian communities have suffered violence at the hands of extremists.
"We call upon the international community to act urgently in order to prevent the further expulsion of Christians from the Middle East," they said.
"In many countries of the Middle East and North Africa whole families, villages and cities of our brothers and sisters in Christ are being completely exterminated," they went on.
"We wish to express our compassion for the suffering experienced by the faithful of other religious traditions who have also become victims of civil war, chaos and terrorist violence."
The 79-year-old Francis, in white robes and a skullcap, and Kirill, 69, in black robes and a white headdress, earlier kissed and embraced before sitting down smiling for the historic meeting at Havana airport.
Between them, they are the spiritual leaders of more than 1.3 billion Christians.
"At last we meet. We are brothers," said the pope as he met the white-bearded Orthodox leader. "Clearly, this meeting is God's will."
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Deus vult.
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So wait - the Russian Orthodox Church and the Roman Catholic Church may enter full communion? Nice.
Wonder if the Church of England will get that too.
...Nah, they've been saying Notice Me, Sempai! for a while now. (More seriously, the Catholic Church would have to backtrack on some rather thoroughly settled questions regarding apostolic succession.)
edited 13th Feb '16 2:01:07 AM by Ramidel
I despise hypocrisy, unless of course it is my own.
Not to mention certain theological differences...
As for the Church of England, it's unlikely (you're referring to the Anglican Church, right?), for the foreseeable future. The differences between the Anglicans and the Catholics are still very noticeable, even if they share some things in common.
edited 13th Feb '16 8:31:35 AM by Quag15
If Pope Francis manages to reunite the Catholic and Orthodox churches and do the same house-cleaning to the Orthodox Church he did in the Catholic Church, then we might as welll canonize him while he's still alive.
To quote someone on this thread (I think it was either the handle or Marquis, maybe Archaemenid) we know he already has a miracle on nis belt via the mending of the Cuba-US relations.
edited 13th Feb '16 8:34:35 AM by Gaon
"All you Fascists bound to lose."
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The Anglicans also have enough troubles with the differences within their own Communion — especially between the very progressive American Episcopalian Church and the very Conservative African Churches.
It is not out the question that a schism might occur.
edited 13th Feb '16 9:00:30 AM by Greenmantle
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Probably Handle. Doesn't sound like the kind of thing I would say.
edited 13th Feb '16 8:41:44 AM by Achaemenid
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Let's hope the schism can be closed once and for all.
Instead of focusing on relatives that divide us, maybe we should try to find the absolutes that tie us.
@Quag: The "Church of England" is the name of the church in question that's the mother of all the Anglican Communion churches.
Anyway, for a while over the last century, the CoE has been bending over backwards in an attempt to get the Catholic Church to recognize their apostolic succession as valid (which, as I said, has been definitively rejected, in my opinion largely due to Reformation-era butthurt), hence my comment that they've got a "Notice Me, Sempai!" thing going on. (The Greek Orthodox churches recognized it at one point but have since changed their mind.)
@Raziel: Not likely. That would require the Patriarchs to accept papal supremacy.
edited 13th Feb '16 5:31:37 PM by Ramidel
I despise hypocrisy, unless of course it is my own.
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Pope Francis describes contraception as "The lesser of two evils" due to outbreak of Zika
In lesser more important but I guess more attractive news, he also said Trump was no christian but I mean, come on, first one is way bigger
It's actually fairly pragmatic of him to say it. It's obvious he won't challenge the general position of the Church in regards to contraception, but he recognizes that, sometimes, there have to be exceptions when extraordinary events arise that end up causing a lot of damage to the community.
edited 18th Feb '16 9:54:34 AM by Quag15
With regards to his saying on Trump:
Damn. Haven't seen the Pope burn someone this bad since Jacques de Molay.
edited 18th Feb '16 10:02:59 AM by Gaon
"All you Fascists bound to lose."
So I think Trump just lost a lot of Catholic voters. 
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Which are not a majority of voters.
More well meaning is his statement on contraceptives, especially what this means for AIDS in Africa.
It has always been the prerogative of children and half-wits to point out that the emperor has no clothes
I'm also a lapsed Catholic (I eat chocolate during Lent, for example). At the very least, my parents have transmitted to us the importance (or at least the routine) of eating fish on Fridays and on Ash Wednesday. And I've been reading some passages from the Bible (and analysis of it) on my own.
@dRoy: Maybe you'll turn out to be a better Catholic than me or many other people around the world. Have a good Lent.![[tup]](https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/Thumbs_up_emoticon_3268.png "[thumb up]")
edited 12th Feb '16 7:03:34 AM by Quag15