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Canid117 Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#1: Apr 6th 2013 at 2:20:35 PM

We don't have a thread for it in the live action tv section yet and the show is coming. Let us discuss.

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#2: Apr 6th 2013 at 2:26:02 PM

well...until the pilot either airs or leaks...

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#3: Apr 6th 2013 at 2:27:08 PM

So how 'bout them other Whedon shows?

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#4: Apr 6th 2013 at 2:27:30 PM

The only thing I have to say is: Baron Von Strucker is a must.

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#5: Apr 6th 2013 at 2:30:30 PM

Oh yeah how do you guys think HYDRA will show up? If they do I mean.

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#6: Apr 6th 2013 at 2:33:44 PM

Well, the MCU already has HYDRA, so they'll probably explain something like "HYDRA used to be a branch of the Nazi government, but after the fall of the reich it became a terrorist cell under the leadership of Baron Von Strucker, former Wehrmacht General."

Think ZFT from Fringe except more military.

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metaphysician Since: Oct, 2010
#7: Apr 6th 2013 at 8:18:54 PM

I wouldn't be shocked if there's not one Hydra so much as multiple Hydra's across time. Basically, different people at different points attempted to revive Hydra, or at least use some of its assets and "brand". One or more of those may exist in the present.

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#8: Apr 6th 2013 at 9:00:03 PM

Well, it does fit with its motto "Cut off one head, two more will take its place."

But still, Von Strucker is a classic [and if you read Secret Warriors, good] SHIELD arch-enemy, I figure he will either be completely absent for the sake of creating a new villain [or because Marvel wants to use him later on in a Captain America movie or some such], or will be the Big Bad.

I think he'd be a great villain.

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metaphysician Since: Oct, 2010
#9: Apr 7th 2013 at 7:23:04 AM

Agreed. I think its most likely he will show up on the TV show; he was always more a Fury and SHIELD villain than a Cap villain.

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#10: Apr 7th 2013 at 7:52:35 AM

AIM will probably also show up. Simply because all the shiny toys the chitauri left...

I actually can see AIM as the bad guys for the first season and then the creeping realization that HYDRA is still out there.

edited 7th Apr '13 7:53:11 AM by 3of4

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#11: Apr 7th 2013 at 11:51:43 AM

Maybe AIM will start off as the main villains, and Von Strucker will be a unnamed, shadowy figure advising them that would be revealed as being Von Strucker only in the season finale.

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imadinosaur Since: Oct, 2011
#12: Apr 7th 2013 at 12:00:29 PM

Aren't AIM confirmed for Iron Man 3? That doesn't prevent them from appearing in this, too, of course.

It would be pretty nifty if this series tied directly in to the films in an ongoing sense.

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Canid117 Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#13: Apr 7th 2013 at 12:29:21 PM

Hell Coulson might show up in Iron Man 3 as a twist with the SHIELD pilot starting right after he leaves the room.

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#14: Apr 8th 2013 at 7:30:21 AM

AIM? MODOK! MODOK! MODOK!

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#15: Apr 8th 2013 at 10:21:27 AM

M.O.D.O.K. on a TV budget. Yeah, that's something I want to see. /sarcasm

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#16: Apr 8th 2013 at 2:53:55 PM

Any news how Coulson survived for this?

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#17: Apr 9th 2013 at 1:07:01 AM

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#18: Apr 9th 2013 at 6:02:01 AM

[up]Oh come on, when's the last time Whedon resurrected a character he killed?

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edited 9th Apr '13 6:02:23 AM by maxwellelvis

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#19: Apr 9th 2013 at 6:51:36 PM

"MODOK on a TV budget," said the man who watches the new Doctor Who.

How likely is Baron Zemo or the Leader here?

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#20: Apr 9th 2013 at 6:53:49 PM

Zemo I doubt it because they're probably holding him for the Cap movies [while Strucker is way more connected to SHIELD than he is to Cap], The Leader...Sure, Why Not?.

I wouldn't expect him to appear, but i can see him appearing as an arc-villain or minor villain.

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#21: Apr 10th 2013 at 8:54:22 AM

I'd actually like to see the Leader. The Incredible Hulk had a Sequel Hook with Sterns that never got followed up on, as there hasn't been a Hulk movie since and doesn't look to be one any time soon - they're talking about one, but it doesn't feature anywhere in Phase 2, and most information is speculative at best, so I would expect it to be released around the same time as the Venom, Deadpool, and Justice League films.

That leaves Sterns as a dangling plot thread that the S.H.I.E.L.D. series could follow up on.

edited 10th Apr '13 8:54:34 AM by TobiasDrake

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#22: Apr 10th 2013 at 9:28:26 AM

The problem with the Leader is he doesn't work if he doesn't, you know, lead. He needs minions, and his traditional ones are on the expensive looking side.

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#23: Apr 10th 2013 at 9:31:32 AM

And? Marvel has zoggin' Disney behind it this time. CG monsters will be easy-peasy now.

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#24: Apr 10th 2013 at 3:47:34 PM

Not on a realistic TV budget, even a big one.

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#25: Apr 10th 2013 at 3:51:33 PM

Marvel has already made just about $2.8 billion on their films so far. They can afford it.


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