Since we've gotten told to stop talking generally about religion twice in the Homosexuality and Religion thread and were told that, if we want to talk generally about religion, we need to make a new thread, I have made a new thread.
Full disclosure: I am an agnostic atheist and anti-theist, but I'm very interested in theology and religion.
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edited 9th Feb '14 1:01:31 PM by Madrugada
What about scientists?
I'm reminded of this site that lists dozens of ways the world could end.
It used to work a lot better and the pictures were all there...but I guess the author quit working on it once he put it all into a book. ;p
And only in Dutch. Hmph.
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And now I've got this Ed Sheeran song stuck in my head again. Thanks.
edited 8th Oct '15 10:51:22 AM by DrunkenNordmann
Welcome to Estalia, gentlemen.
Well, and Revelations also makes several references to the "lake of fire," which awaits the Beast and sinners alike.
But earth comes after water in the avatar cycle...
Lost in Space
Earth, the planet, will come to a fiery end in some ten billion years, when the expanding red giant phase of our sun engulfs it and it's vaporized. Billions of years prior to this, it will become uninhabitable due to the sun's increasing temperature. Of course, I doubt that's the specific end these folks have in mind.
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
And if humans survive that long, I doubt they'd be "human" in any way we'd be able to recognise. Except fast food.
Si Vis Pacem, Para Perkele
A nice butterfly
I wonder how is he planning to end the world with Heart
edited 8th Oct '15 11:21:20 AM by Aszur
It has always been the prerogative of children and half-wits to point out that the emperor has no clothes
I'm Ruthless.
"I remember when, I remember, I remember when I lost my mind..."
edited 8th Oct '15 1:32:45 PM by MeetTheNewBoss
You claim that God is opressing us, but I see you opressing others without needing a God.
Some say the world will end in fire,
Some say in ice.
From what I’ve tasted of desire
I hold with those who favor fire.
But if it had to perish twice,
I think I know enough of hate
To say that for destruction ice
Is also great
And would suffice.
edited 8th Oct '15 7:21:44 PM by DeMarquis
I don't recall God in the bible saying he'd end the world with fire, merely that he wouldn't end it with water again. In fact, in context he's declaring that he won't ever end the human race, no matter how much we come to deserve it.
“As long as the earth endures, seedtime and harvest, cold and heat, summer and winter, day and night will never cease.”
Also, I'd argue the events of Revelation are not the 'end of the world' per say-as humanity not only survives but actually comes out better for it.
"Any campaign world where an orc samurai can leap off a landcruiser to fight a herd of Bulbasaurs will always have my vote of confidence"
Well The long form of "the end of the world" is The End of the World as We Know It which actually does fit the bill for Revelation (it is the end on age for our world and the beginning of another), but I suppose that's quite a mouthful
"All you Fascists bound to lose."
United Earth
Precision trumps concision.
So, can DC heroes be considered Gods in the pagan sense? They seem to be often billed as such...
Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
I think the fact that most of them are mortal would be a big blow to their godhood.
United Earth
edited 9th Oct '15 12:02:33 AM by TheHandle
Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
Well, come to think of it, I have heard it be said that comic book heroes are kind of the modern day equivalent of mythology, which would actually give the superhero god theory some credit.
I'm pretty sure Superman isn't going to die of natural causes any time soon. There's also that DC one million thing where he spent millennia in the centre of the sun and came out all gold and stuff.
edited 9th Oct '15 1:09:44 AM by Elfive
belongs to the hurricane
in some stories superman ages, but kind of slowly. he looked like he was in his late 40's in batman beyond when bruce was a visibly aged old man.
as with most superheroes in the big two's stables, it's Depending on the Writer.
DC has a tendency of playing up that angle, but even when they don't it's kind of self-evident.
edited 9th Oct '15 1:40:54 AM by wehrmacht
Marvel has superheroes who are actual gods, of course. And Thor is often said to be their version of Superman.
There's a famous black spiritual song that contains the verse: "God gave Noah the rainbow sign/no more water but the fire next time." (James Baldwin later stole that line to title one of his books.) Even though it's not Holy Writ, I think it might have crept into popular religiosity, where it's sometimes misremembered as Scripture.
Lost in Space
Pardon me for saying so, but, "Next time I won't drown 99% of people; I will burn you all in Hell instead," isn't a very inspiring message.
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
A nice butterfly
Do you feel lucky, punk?
It has always been the prerogative of children and half-wits to point out that the emperor has no clothes
United Earth
I'm told I shouldn't worry about it.
Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
You can tell the story of Noah was written by someone who'd never been out of the middle east because they thought forty days of rain would be enough to flood the planet.
Round here we call that "March and April".
Impossible Gender Forge
There are mortal gods though- Look at the Norse ones, or the Egyptian. They can die or be killed. Doesn't make them not deities within their own faiths.
The whole the world will end in fire thing is based on the flood story where god tells Noah because he destroyed the world first with water he would do fire next.
"Psssh. Even if you could catch a miracle on a picture any person would probably delete it to make space for more porn." - Aszur