Since we've gotten told to stop talking generally about religion twice in the Homosexuality and Religion thread and were told that, if we want to talk generally about religion, we need to make a new thread, I have made a new thread.
Full disclosure: I am an agnostic atheist and anti-theist, but I'm very interested in theology and religion.
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edited 9th Feb '14 1:01:31 PM by Madrugada
Impossible Gender Forge
How else are they supposed to get vacation time?
Lost in Space
If you live in Heaven, when do you ever get the chance to see dirt to know what it looks like?
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
What's this about 3 angels going to look for dirt?
Technically it was four angels. Their are Four archangels. I just can't remember the name of the fourth one right now.
Any who, it's folklore and not canon for a reason, mate.
Very few Jews take it as anything more than just a cool story.
edited 25th Mar '14 5:14:00 AM by Gabrael
"Psssh. Even if you could catch a miracle on a picture any person would probably delete it to make space for more porn." - Aszur
Yeah, but I'm just imagining God's reaction when they got back.
"Did you get some?"
"Er... Not exactly"
"Not Exactly?"
"I got you a sheep."
"a sheep"
"It was going to get eaten by a lion."
*Facepalm*
I'm not familiar with the story so I feel out of the loop when discussing it
edited 25th Mar '14 5:35:16 AM by Xopher001
Impossible Gender Forge
It was mentioned on the last page, as I recall. I would link but I have to use a phone to access the forums presently.
Typing is annoying with this thing.
Professional Smartass
Impossible Gender Forge
Azrael being different from Azazel.
Naughty, naughty. This is why he fell.
That and banging human chicks.
HGW XX/7
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Sounds like a top guy.
Schild und Schwert der Partei
He sounds a bit like Prometheus.
Impossible Gender Forge
Wow. Noah and his family must have been Omnidisciplinary Scientists to keep all those skills going after the flood.
edited 25th Mar '14 6:31:55 AM by Elfive
HGW XX/7
Oh come on. Literal interpretations of Genesis are more hole than target by this point. Can we talk about something a little bit more sophisticated?
Schild und Schwert der Partei
Impossible Gender Forge
Sophisticated?
How about hermeticism?
edited 25th Mar '14 6:37:18 AM by Matues
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That's most of this thread, Achaemenid.
You mean like the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn
, and Theosophy in general? That's interesting, and something new for people to discover.
edited 25th Mar '14 6:52:40 AM by Greenmantle
Keep Rolling On
Dawww, that's sweet Gabrael 
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Hey can someone explain what the soul is or what it does? All of the purported functions of the soul are today attributed to the brain and can be affected by messing with the brain. It's a pretty harsh blow to mind-body dualism, but I'd just like to know for knowledge's sake what the soul is supposed to do or what it even is.
Thanks!
Ask someone what a soul is and you will get a million answers.
Would you like a perspective coming from a certain religion or just the personal views of the tropers?
"Psssh. Even if you could catch a miracle on a picture any person would probably delete it to make space for more porn." - Aszur
Never Trust
AFAIK there are two types of arcangels. There'omthe general rank which is second from the bottom, just above just plain angels and who I envision as the NCOsof Heaven. Then there are the capital "A" Arcangels. Michael, Gabriel, Raphael and Uriel/Azrael. Also Maybe Metatron. Lucifer was one of the Big As before his fall, in fact I think he was the Boss angel just below Yahweh.
Trump delenda est
Visiting from the Hoag Galaxy
That's mostly Apocrypha, as the authorship of the Book of Enoch is extremely dubious. The Bible itself just kind of describes a few different types, without ranks, calls Michael an Archangel, and never actually conflates Lucifer and Satan. Especially since Satan is actually a corruption of a title. It just means adversary, and who it refers to depends on context. The Satan that shows up in Job is probably supposed to be a different entity than the one in the Gospels, if only because of the very different tactics.
And yeah, that's an awesome name!
edited 25th Mar '14 2:22:15 PM by Zendervai
Not Three Laws compliant.
Professional Smartass
Gabrael
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Oh either will do. And while we're at it, can anyone think of any famous quote that has moral relevance in fiction or from real people that predates the Bible? I mean there are plenty to choose from the Bible itself like "The truth will set you free", but I'd like to hear some older ones.
And for all their power, they have a 67% chance of failing to find dirt on a huge ball of dirt.