Pokemon X and Y - Gen VI for the 3DS (SPOILER WARNING)

Sigh. Again, it doesn't matter because Vanillite could easily be seen post-game, whereas in Black/White, they took the time to add plenty of new Pokemon and left oldies until post - oh fuck it. Codes, codes everywhere, and only a team of three people working on the game apparently.

I also find it strange how they've apparently not worked out how Skrelp evolves yet.

edited 5th Oct '13 11:24:44 PM by absolclaw

Somebody said it needed Camouflage in its moveset.

Also, RPG themed pokemon:

Classes/People:

• Chesnaught: fighter
• Greninja: rogue
• Delphox: wizard
• Pangoro: monk
• Fossils: King and queen
• Florges: Druid
• Barbaracle: barbarian

Items/Equipment:

• Aegislash: sword and shield
• Klefki: Dungeon Keys

Monsters:

• Malamar: Mind Flayer
• Goomy: Blob Monster
• Noivern: Bat

edited 5th Oct '13 11:25:31 PM by ironcommando

Why would it have to be post-game? What does that really change? That you don't have to look at it during the main game?

edited 5th Oct '13 11:25:11 PM by KuroBaraHime

That was a rumour one guy said he was going to try out, but as far as I can tell no one has reported back anything.

They could have added more Pokemon except they didn't. Why didn't they do what Black/White or Black/White 2 did?

Gah stop it, I said I gave up on this stupid argument.

edited 5th Oct '13 11:26:02 PM by absolclaw

People, can just drop the Pokéde thing already? Too much negativity for the liking.

Yeah, they backtracked. ;_; They're leveling a whole different Skrelp now because they think he evolves at a certain level with a move he made his first one forget. It's gonna take forever now. :C

edited 5th Oct '13 11:26:39 PM by CassidyTheDevil

I agree, more giant hobo news, people.

FFFF

Wait, why not just Move Tutor?

edited 5th Oct '13 11:28:09 PM by absolclaw

Ouch.

And no, the Pokedex doesn't mean much at all. There's 3 different dexes.

I'd honestly wait till Bulbapedia has the full list or at least the full Guide comes out. We don't even know how many entirely new Pokemon there are. That's not even including Mega Evolutions.

Well, we've got a fairly solid list so far [1]

I'm totally buying the guide the first day, though

He was going to try the move relearner, it's after the sixth gym apparently, but he...couldn't figure out how to move to the next town. >.> Some kind of roadblock he can't figure out.

They mispelled Zygarde. :C

edited 5th Oct '13 11:34:42 PM by CassidyTheDevil

This is the last time I'm going to explain this.

Vanillite would be taking up "space" for a new Pokemon whether he would be encounter-able post game or not. It's not about when or where you can meet him.

And it's not just about who they have programming it. It's about budget. It's about how much physical memory they have to work with. It's about how much every single element of the game takes up.

Using full 3D models, fully rendered environments, and everything else is vastly different from what they did in previous generations, because they used sprites and a completely different kind of overworld. Judging what they did, visually, with this game versus its predecessors is effectively like saying "They could have put more levels in Super Mario 64 because there were a lot more in Super Mario Bros. 3."

I'm hoping that there are at least a couple more in game legendary Pokemon.

That's cute. This is the last time I'm going to explain this. Did Black/White not add on Pokemon like Stunfisk or Zoroark simply because they'd be adding data? They don't have 3 people working on a game, and they don't start working on a game several months after the last one is released.

Anyway, how can you not get past the sixth town? I honestly cannot think of a single way a roadblock could be that confusing, especially since others got past it fine.

There's three spots above Xerneas, so there's still potential for a trio.

edited 5th Oct '13 11:35:45 PM by absolclaw

Black and White did have to make decisions based on data, yes. That's why we got around 150 in that generation as opposed to 200 or 300. That was also after they'd already used the DS hardware on one prior generation and were effectively more used to it and able to bring out its capabilities more.

XY has a very different set of circumstances in play, and its not fair to compare them.

Fedoras confirmed◊

@Razorsaw: Glad to see somebody gets it. Dex just doesn't mean a damn thing, especially with 3 of them, not 2. It's too unwieldly to make any predictions here.

There is no real evidence, just silly assumptions with very little reasonable logic applied. The fact some of them have non-Kalos Pokemon already means that the amount is extremely difficult to say. Combine that with three different kind of Dexes, and there's no real pattern to follow. Now let's drop this crap, because there's no proof, and it's getting a little annoying that people are calling out exactly what Pokemon are where.

For all we know, there is still another Eevee Evolution and it's listed in the other Dex. If I remember correctly, there's National, Mountain, and Regional. Did I miss one? Because those are not 3 nearly equal dexes at all by default. Only Gen V's original Regional Dex was filled with unique Pokemon. A lot of them were among the regular National Dex. Gen II also did this, but had 100 new Pokemon species. Which means this could too, despite sharing pieces with other Dexes. Thus, we're calling too much too early with a severe lack of evidence.

edited 5th Oct '13 11:47:24 PM by Irene

That's not my name.

and the amount of new Pokemon there are seems to be set firmly in place, so.

Oh no, now young kids are going to think fedoras are cool and get listed on all those blogs about hating fedoras ;_;

A Freudian slip about me and you apparently?

Also, apparently the missing slots are confirmed to not be new Pokemon - people who have checked the national dex noticed no missing slots.

edited 5th Oct '13 11:46:31 PM by absolclaw

That reminds me, remember how they said there were no hatless option? Yeah, bit weird, especially since in the beginning of the game, your character just woke up, in pyjamas and not wearing a hat. Some one posted a picture, but too lazy to dig it up.

edited 5th Oct '13 11:48:30 PM by TPPR10

A true gentlemen doesn't sleep in their hat.

To be fair, I associate TF with Transformers. I remember the name Razorclaw from there, so... my bad.

And no, they're not set. It just seems that way. Again, 3 Dexes completely weirds it out. Speculation isn't factual enough to call it.

Dang, really? I hope the missing spots are all my favorites then.

I'm having trouble trying to think of the extra stand alone Pokemon that fill in the solo empty slots that don't clash with another standalone we've already seen :/

It looks the 3 blank spaces before Xerneas could be the legendary birds.

I'm having trouble believing there's a single set pattern here and am ignoring that since it means absolutely nothing.

It would suck if there's only one Eevee evolution, though. One of the few things I find an issue. The other is a lack of a Dark Gym, and no Dark Elite 4 either.