Finding Nemo 2

Except from 1995-2009, we got 10 Pixar movies, only one of which was a sequel.

Now from 2010 onwards, we know of 8 films, four of which are sequels.

Not that the sequels are inherently bad, Toy Story 3 was great after all, but it's undeniable that they're suddenly piling on a lot of sequels compared to before.

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The money men run Pixar now, sadly. Just look at how Brave got carved up "for the boys" and that was after Cars 2 was crapped out to capitalize on the merchandising of the first film. I have very low hopes for Monsters University working as an idea, as there's little left to be said in that universe.

I'm amazed they even let Andrew Stanton back in the door after hanging John Carter around his neck. Maybe he's still got a good concept for another Finding Nemo film...at least that story can realistically move forward based on the ending of the last film and there's still strong characters who've adjusted to a new life but can still go through new and interesting conflicts.

And of course, Brad Bird still won't do Incredibles 2, the one sequel EVERYONE wants.

Yeah... A real hatchet job:

I only want an Incredibles sequel if it's as well-written and subversive as the original.

Really, so all of the complaints about Brave's pacing and editing and story choices have nothing to do with ripping off the veteran director and plopping it in the hands of a complete rookie out of concern that more boys needed to watch the movie are completely invalid? Hell, even the marketing of the movie went out of its way to sell it as an action movie and a lot of tropers here seemed to backlash entirely based on that.

As for Incredibles 2...I don't expect it to have those traits without Brad Bird. And Brad Bird seems largely uninterested in making it if he doesn't have a good idea. So far, for all our sakes, they're clearly refusing to make it without him. But god help us all if they move forward on it anyway, which they are more than capable of doing if they've showed so little respect for directors in the past (Chapman isn't even the first director pitched out the door). There are also very, very few of the original core Pixar team present and I think it shows in the choices of films recently.

If this "Big Heroes 6" or whatever is a huge hit for Disney, they ARE GOING to look to the possibility of making an Incredibles sequel with or without Brad Bird! It's the way of the business!

I predict that the Incredibles will have a sequel announced the next time the United States hits a major political turning point. If the US doesn't ever hit another major political turning point, and keeps moving in the same direction (left) at a steady rate indefinitely, there will be no Incredibles sequel.

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Dammit Pixar (or Disney)! This movie does not need a sequel! I'm trying to figure out how it would work anyway.

x4 If what Chapman says is true and Brave is almost identical to what she was doing, than no, the problems with the film have almost nothing to do with removing her from the project.

And I don't know what the political state of the country has to do with an Incredibles sequel, but for the sake of the thread I'd rather not know.

edited 4th Jan '13 5:37:00 PM by Brokenshell44

I'm pretty sure Pixar and Disney have agreements that would prevent them from doing that. That's why the Disney version of Toy Story 3 was cancelled when Pixar was purchased by Disney.

And as for "everyone" wanting an Incredibles sequel, how about no. I wouldn't mind a sequel to that I guess, but as a film it stands fine on its own. Maybe a television series might work for it, or, better yet, a comic book?

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If it's that close to her vision, then I think we should accept that Brave was probably never going to be very good. Certainly not nearly as good as we let ourselves hype it up to.

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Sorry guys, I can confirm that Finding Nemo 2 is not going to happen, as the The Other Wiki states: 'However, the same day the news of a potential sequel broke, director Andrew Stanton posted a message on his personal Twitter calling into question the accuracy of these reports. The message said, "Didn't you all learn from Chicken Little? Everyone calm down. Don't believe everything you read. Nothing to see here now. #skyisnotfalling" In September 2012, it was confirmed by Stanton saying: "What was immediately on the list was writing a second Carter movie. When that went away, everything slid up. I know I'll be accused by more sarcastic people that it's a reaction to Carter not doing well, but only in its timing, but not in its conceit."'

There is no Finding Nemo 2.

Well, that isn't really surprising.

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Ah, well. I was actually looking forward to seeing some manner of continuation on the "world of undersea creatures" theme.

Though I was wary at the idea of a sequel, since I was nervous it was going to be a "hook-up sequel" like Mulan 2 or Hunchback of Notre Dame 2. Granted, Pixar's never actually come near to stooping that low.

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Hold your ponies Meta Four. Pixar is STILL not off the hook with me. If the final product was almost identical, why even bother replacing her? I think what happened here is that Pixar TRIED to alter the movie, but she wouldnt budge so they fired her and put Mark Andrews in charge. He Tried to alter it (Brenda said at the movie at one point was VERY far away from her vision) and then decided he couldnt do it after all, so they modified it again to a version closer to Brenda's vision. All because they thought a movie about a mother and daughter relating wouldnt sell.

To solve this Pixar released Trailers that outright lied about the movie's theme and heart. And for me that's just wrong.

edited 5th Jan '13 2:42:21 AM by CocoNatts

So instead of going with a more action packed and more marketable version, they stayed true to Chapmans vision and just marketed it in a way to get butts in the seats in a way that was more genuine than something like Tangled that didn't even market the main character.

That damn Pixar, do they have no integrity?

I heard movie company aren't responsible for trailers produce off there films.

And I knew Finding Nemo 2 was a fake, I knew it!

...Ah.

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I didn't say that Pixar was completely blameless in the exchange. The whole incident seems to stink of unfortunate implications about the working of the studio.

I'm just saying it's unreasonable to attribute the flaws of the finished film to Chapman's firing.

It's not the first time they've replaced a director. Same thing happened with Ratatouille.

That's totally different though, because the original director of Ratatouille wasn't a woman!

edited 5th Jan '13 9:42:33 AM by Brokenshell44

That's true; if it was as close to her vision as Chapman said the finished film was, Brave wasn't that good to begin with.

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I know. However, the fact that Brenda Chapman got fired for not making certain changes to the film, then the male director they replaced her with undid those changes, makes the whole thing prone to uncharitable interpretations. It comes across like a male had more creative freedom to realize Chapman's vision than Chapman herself did.

But maybe that's not what happened. Maybe there really was a creative difference between Chapman and the Pixar execs, completely unrelated to her being a woman. Then, well after firing her, everyone realized that the proposed changes were a mistake, so they went back to Chapman's original vision. (Which raises the question of why they didn't try to bring Chapman back. But, given how frakked-up the politics in Hollywood are, it's plausible that Pixar might want to offer Chapman her position back, but not be able to do so for some arcane reason.)

There's just too many unknown factors at work for me to pass judgement with any certainty.

Its totally different because in Ratatouille a complete unknown with BRAD FRICKING BIRD and replaced an experienced veteran with a complete unknown for Brave.

Fixed.

edited 5th Jan '13 1:14:18 PM by CocoNatts