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AngelG55th Since: Aug, 2012
#76: Dec 6th 2012 at 12:29:00 PM

[up]0dd1, you'd be correct in assuming that. I'm afraid I've gone down a one-way street ever since I started playing online. Back then I had assimilated the belief that you'd have to be an excpetional player in order to have any chance of being worthy of the attention of any given gaming community, and in the end this became a very deeply ingrained belief of mine. Unfortunately, this kind of self-pressuring only got worse with time, and this year it started spilling into outside my video gaming hobby. At this point I find it hard to do anything that, as Clarste said, "you can be "better" at in any conceivable sense", since the constant and unfavorable comparisons I make continuously erode my self-esteem.

Particularly damaging to my self-esteem would be reading up or watching the achievements of challenge gamers (one even frequents this very forum - Poochy.EXE). I'm not too sure if it's because I really want to attain a level of proficiency in video games like they have, or if I simply cannot accept myself for who I am (such as my limitations and my set of skills), but I've began to see such players as if they were superhuman, like they belonged to some kind of superior species, born to conquer and to win (while at the same time berating myself, thinking I belong to an inferior species, bred to be enslaved). Yes, this line of thought is totally bonkers, but I can assure you that this is the caliber of the things that swirl about my mind.

I'm going to ask, yet again: how can I cope with this? It's really affecting my quality of life.

edited 6th Dec '12 12:34:24 PM by AngelG55th

0dd1 Just awesome like that from Nowhere Land Since: Sep, 2009
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#77: Dec 6th 2012 at 12:40:03 PM

Well, if it's affecting your quality of life, then you outright need to seek psychological help. That's pretty much the only way to overcome it. Simply avoiding everything gaming related, especially if you frequent the internet, just isn't possible.

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disruptorfe404 Since: Sep, 2011
#78: Dec 6th 2012 at 1:18:02 PM

Tangential, but I'm actually curious about why you want the attention of any gaming community at all.

AngelG55th Since: Aug, 2012
#79: Dec 6th 2012 at 1:28:16 PM

[up]Friends. I took up online gaming in 2009 as a way to become less isolated from the world. The game I used to start this off was Mario Kart Wii. Due to the whole "friend lists" thing going on ina forum I'd visit regularly, I started one too, but I back then had to realize the hard way that no one would want to add a random person just because they asked. And so began my "quest for attention", so to speak. There originated my idea of "if you want to catch the attention of that community, you must be exceptional". While it was kinda under control back then, mostly due to the aid of Skype, it probably ingrained itself deep into my mind silently, and without Skype to distract me an obssession was allowed to bloom.

burnpsy Since: Sep, 2010
#80: Dec 6th 2012 at 1:51:09 PM

Going to have to third the "see a psychologist" suggestion - there seems to be a worse problem hidden here.

I suppose just telling you that you don't have to be amazing to get friends won't help.

edited 6th Dec '12 1:51:35 PM by burnpsy

AngelG55th Since: Aug, 2012
#81: Dec 6th 2012 at 6:35:25 PM

Folks, it got worse.

Other than that...I think you better be trying to solve that compulsion to compare yourself to others, or you won't be able to enjoy EVERYTHING ELSE! Hell, I can't even think of one thing on Earth that you can't compare it to what others does!
It has gotten to the point onyhow predicted.
[00:00:33] Antimatter625: What do you -enjoy-? I've heard a lot about what you dislike or hate but the only thing I've heard anything positive about is when you and your friend played a bit offline. What other things bring you, if not elation, than at least contentment?

[00:01:44] Gabriel Pereira: I actually used to enjoy playing video games (and, as a matter of fact, still enjoy talking about them) but I withdrew from them because I couldn't withstand the level of pressure I was subjecting myself to in every game I played.

[00:02:12] Antimatter625: Not what you -used- to enjoy. What do you still enjoy?

[00:04:51 | Editado 00:05:12] Gabriel Pereira: I don't think there's much else, actually. I can only think of listening to music (but even that has a caveat - perhaps due to my tainted memories of the video games, I sometimes find myself abruptly stopping listening to a Touhou song I know I like due to an influx of thoughts over the games; I pretty much have to be trying to go this far, though) and watching movies (but they must be in a theater, else my attention drifts)

[00:05:32] Antimatter625: I see.

[00:05:51] Antimatter625: Well, I suppose first step is to find something you enjoy.

[00:08:07] Gabriel Pereira: There's also random You Tube comedy (like random TF 2 videos or Tourettes Guy, as I showed you a long time ago) but even that I've put off for a bit because they were making me feel like a shallow, immature person who laughs at profanity. You're probably right, I need to find something I can enjoy without guilt. Or maybe seek psychological help, because my current thought patterns probably aren't being good for my mental health.

[00:08:29] Antimatter625: These are all things it would be good to tell your psychiatrist.

[00:09:48] Gabriel Pereira: I think it's too late now. Other than that...I think you better be trying to solve that compulsion to compare yourself to others, or you won't be able to enjoy EVERYTHING ELSE! Hell, I can't even think of one thing on Earth that you can't compare it to what others does! It has gotten to this point onyhow mentioned.

[00:12:04] Antimatter625: You may also be having a bit of difficulty at this moment because of the late hour. But we've both known for a while that that mindset is unhealthy.

[00:15:19 | Editado 00:15:24] Gabriel Pereira: So it is, thus making my current objective finding a way to enjoy things guilt-free, worry-free; basically, digging myself out of this hole I buried myself in.

[00:15:48] Antimatter625: Even simply finding a thing you enjoy would a good start.

So basically, I am suddenly finding myself placing caveats, or outright feeling guilty over doing the things I know I like; basically, being unable to enjoy pretty much anything I know I would enjoy. I know, you're going to ask me to seek psychological help, but I'm already doing so. If you understand my situation and can contribute something meaningful, please do so. I feel my life is about to become much harder than it really should be.

edited 6th Dec '12 6:44:21 PM by AngelG55th

Swampertrox Since: Oct, 2010
#82: Dec 6th 2012 at 9:39:50 PM

If you're having trouble with things you know you'd enjoy, try something you don't know anything about. Worst case scenario, you don't like it; best case, you find something new to like that you don't feel guilty about.

Dynamod -Nudge- from Eagle Land Since: Jan, 2011
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#83: Dec 10th 2012 at 11:02:49 AM

sounds about right... the way I think of it as doing something because you want to do it, rather than doing something because it'll make you feel better, or doing something because you had to.

not game related, but just... generally.

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disruptorfe404 Since: Sep, 2011
#84: Dec 10th 2012 at 12:31:37 PM

Does the need for attention also apply to your real-life, in-person friends?

I only ask because you don't mention them (or haven't mentioned them in a notable capacity in this thread).

AngelG55th Since: Aug, 2012
#85: Dec 10th 2012 at 12:47:23 PM

Does the need for attention also apply to your real-life, in-person friends? I only ask because you don't mention them (or haven't mentioned them in a notable capacity in this thread).
Not really, but then again, I don't have many real-life friends to start with...

I really should add that at this point I've decided to take a new direction in my life. The reason I took video games far too seriously was because I did little else. The way to fix that was by finding other things of interest, as a way to sideline video games and curb their importance in my life. (I think this went unseen, but at one point my avatar + title in this forum made an allusion to suicide, and it shocked everybody close to me out of their wits)

In a nutshell, I'm learning how to live all over again.

disruptorfe404 Since: Sep, 2011
#86: Dec 10th 2012 at 1:16:07 PM

How close are the ones you have? Are they aware of your situation?

Dynamod -Nudge- from Eagle Land Since: Jan, 2011
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#87: Dec 10th 2012 at 1:30:30 PM

You know, this was pretty off topic either way, I think I'll just edit it out. no use

edited 10th Dec '12 1:33:03 PM by Dynamod

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AngelG55th Since: Aug, 2012
#88: Dec 10th 2012 at 2:19:13 PM

[up][up]The real life friends that are not family that I currently have are more like classmates, so I haven't really delved into detail with them over my current predicament. The closest friends I have are all virtual... x_x

Which brings me to one more issue I need to fix: find something I find pleasurable to do that involves the participation of other live people.

edited 10th Dec '12 2:19:35 PM by AngelG55th

disruptorfe404 Since: Sep, 2011
#89: Dec 10th 2012 at 7:07:39 PM

[up]I was going to recommend something of the sort, certainly. Some of my closest friends are my former classmates, so there's definitely that.

That being said, family also should be a support group (whether or not it is your first choice would depend on how close you are to them).

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