Should Nintendo develop for other platforms other than their own?

Excuse me? Where the hell did that assumption come from? You're using the word negligence weirdly, but I'm pretty sure you're accusing me of not caring about multiplatform games. Which is a pretty weird assumption to make considering that was my first post in this thread, thus meaning you had absolutely nothing to base any such assumption on.

Now to actually address the accusation, let's look at my Steam library! I'll list what games in there are multiplatform with at least one console.

• Borderlands
• Skyrim
• Gotham City Impostors
• Mass Effect
• Mass Effect 2
• PAYDAY The Heist
• Portal
• Portal2
• Knights Of The Old Republic
• Team Fortress 2
• Terraria

So, yeah. Don't make assumptions. I do like things being multiplatform. However, said opinion has no bearing on the truth of the matter that Nintendo is a corporation. Corporations are out to make money. As long as Nintendo can still sell their consoles and games made from their IP, said games will only be on their consoles, because that's how they're going to get the most money out of the situation.

Neither of those is an excuse for baseless accusation.

/threadhop

Yes, but that's generally because I don't really like exclusivity that much...it sucks when you're being a fan of a series and games in that series suddenly appeared in systems you don't own...or just good games that are in consoles you don't have...

Then again, that's bad business for console makers...(but since I'm PC gamer..)

edited 3rd Dec '12 6:06:57 AM by onyhow

Everyone ignore the troll (). Nothing to see here.

edited 3rd Dec '12 6:43:25 AM by Archereon

Also Cassie, I think it's best to agree to disagree for now...it seems like the argument is flaring up prerty...badly...

Multi-platform games are awesome, but Nintendo is a successful competitive business (so it wont happen short of something massive), and as someone mentioned earlier, their games always make the best use of the technology provided because they spent so much time, effort and resources making the dang things. Also, didn't someone say specifically not to feed the troll?

Manak can best summarize this, methinks.

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edited 3rd Dec '12 8:16:01 AM by Eventua

Can't really see why Nintendo would want to, even for PC, as long as their hardware sales remain strong. I mean Sony and Microsoft does develop for PC, but those are somewhat different cases altogether. Would be nice, but until Nintendo's hardware sales go the way of Sega, it's highly unlikely.

edited 3rd Dec '12 8:42:53 AM by EarlOfSandvich

Sony and Microsoft also both make thinks besides games and consoles, including computer stuff, so they do sell more computers indirectly by making computer games and making computers more attractive.

I would love it if Nintendo made computer games too, but I can see the reasons not to.

As for the argument about them going multiplatform, especially regarding Malaysia, where Cassie's from, it makes sense for Malaysians to want that. Hell, it makes perfect sense for them to want a single, neutral platform to begin with. In other threads about game sales, there were major complaints from Malaysian forum goers because their country has BAD tarriffs against things like games, which absolutely kill the legitimate game companies in their country. Yes, an American, or any other Western gamer has a fair chance to buy new systems. Someone in Malaysia? Good luck finding those systems to begin with. Buying one . . .? You might manage one or two. If you're a fan of exclusives from several companies, you're SOL without going black market and getting lucky.

And Malaysian programmers have their own difficulties. They have to learn those languages, and getting the resources to do so, for each different one, is a quest in itself.

Now I wish the internet was around during soviet days, just too see more culture clashing arguments like this.

There's a quote from Steve Jobs I think aptly describes Nintendo's MO: "If you want to make great software, you have to build your own hardware."

Part of Nintendo's success with their games is the fact they don't have to worry about getting the software to run on a couple dozen hardware platforms they don't control and instead can focus most of their development energy on the game itself.

edited 3rd Dec '12 10:50:49 AM by NeoChaos

There's one huge reason to exclusively develop for your own systems as opposed to going multiplatform, aside from it being a stupid business move, as going multiplatform will take away the purpose of platform exclusiveness (which is to attract more people to your console).

Nintendo only develops for their own systems because, aside from the fact that they know their own system like no other company, they develop their games with the intent of using specific features to their fullest. They aren't restricted by what their competition doesn't have, only having to rely on their own limits.

Believe it or not, it's really freaking hard to make their Wii U games multiplatform, because of the second screen. Sure you can say that technically X Box 360 and Play Station 3 have their own ways of having a second screen, but it would mean that people would HAVE to have the extra hardware, which isn't included as a standard, and you can't force people to do that. 3DS games likewise can't be simply ported to Vita, as it lacks the second screen.

Indeed.

Unless Malaysians can beat the trade problem, they might be better off grabbing some programming books and creating their own exclusive gaming industry so they don't have to keep pirating or paying out the nose for the sort of thing everyone else has.

On topic: IF they had the extra resources, it'd be awesome if Nintendo created new I Ps specifically to be multiplatform, to syphon some of the cash the other consoles are making. But, the other companies are doing the same thing, and Nintendo's probably better off sticking to their own hardware.

Don't do this.

If the person you're accusing of trolling actually is trolling, you're just adding fuel to the fire.

If they're not trolling, you're committing a personal attack that doesn't help the discussion.

Just Holler the trolling post(s) and we'll take care of it.

If it seems that people are falling to the troll, maybe you can encourage them to drop that derail or something. But don't accuse people of trolling without consulting the Mods first.

edited 3rd Dec '12 12:07:43 PM by BestOf

@Journeyman: That makes Cassie's statements make considerably more sense. However, in exchange, it makes them egotistical as heck, especially considering that Malaysia is not a significant gaming market by any stretch of the imagination. In additoon, that makes the "I can't afford a Wii U" strawman argument 100% correct.

In any case, I believe this topic ran its course in the first page, before the slight derail.

edited 3rd Dec '12 3:32:14 PM by burnpsy

On the last point, no, not really. The op didn't ask whether Nintendo's main I Ps should stop being exclusive. Just whether they should develop for other systems. Everyone's arguing about their major franchises like Mario and Zelda, but I don't think very many people talked about them creating wholy new ones to branch out.

Granted, I don't think it's a good business idea unless they have the money to throw around and risk losing, but I'd like to see others discussing the notion of them creating completely new worlds to port to other systems.

On the subject of Malaysia, I think they're going about this the wrong way. Rather than complaining they don't get the shiny things others do, they should be investing in a home brewed game industry that shows their government, "Tax our imports out of existence, we just won't need them anymore." All nations have distinct cultures. Dealing with Sony, Nintendo, and Microsoft just feeds the Malaysians Japanese and Western cultures. Home brewing lets them create games with their own National and Cultural flavor.

^ I dunno about Malaysia, but Thailand seems to have the games = bad mentality going on, so it's hard to grow things...

Short answer: No.

Long answer: Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.

And your reason is?

Malaysia and our neighbor Singapore actually have a number of development houses that handle outsourced work for Western developers (including, if I recall, several AAA firms). I'm guessing that most of the coding and art muscle is actually funneled into that part of the industry rather than actual new I Ps.

Well, that, the indie sector and casual online game and app development. There's also somewhat of a language barrier because Malaysian development efforts tend to be in the Malay language.

I can appreciate being against console exclusives in general, but consider that Nintendo's strong catalogue of first-party exclusives is a big reason for their success. I don't think Nintendo would exist today if it weren't for Mario and Zelda. Nintendo has always had the best lineup of first-party exclusives on the market, so even if the entire industry abandoned exclusives and every game was multi-platform, Nintendo would be hit the hardest. There just wouldn't be such a huge incentive to buy a Nintendo console if all their games were on other consoles.

edited 4th Dec '12 2:57:42 AM by Talby

-facepalm-

nvm, had a bit of a ditzy spell.

edited 3rd Dec '12 10:13:11 PM by Tarsen

I assumed this thread was asking whether or not Nintendo's long standing franchises should branch out into multiplatform, and so I reacted accordingly.

I find the bias towards Nintendo here greatly disturbing. It's like there's an unwritten rule here that Nintendo shouldn't do anything unconservative. Do you know what trade conservatism is like? Just look at the global market tariffs and cross country transport taxes and embargoes.

As a video gamer, I do not feel it fair to have any game being barred from reaching my hands just because I can't pay for the hardware. I also do not feel it fair that a company like Nintendo, which stood so long as the most firmly placed video game landmark in the market, should not consider 'charitize' its own franchises and go multiplatform for once just so other console owners can share the same fun.

Videogames in the end are still just another form of entertainment, a luxury item. You may feel it's bad that you won't get it, but then again, videogame consoles are not something that's needed to live.

And business-wise, it does not make sense for Nintendo to have games on other platforms, as they are well aware that their games sell and sell well.

edited 4th Dec '12 2:57:07 AM by Folt