Is this an example?

Official Couple is kind of used to just mean "any couple that is canon" and I think it could use another trip to TRS to limit it to "the main couple of the work" more effectively.

Nvm.

Edited by WhirlRX on Apr 16th 2024 at 4:17:01 AM

Is this also David Versus Goliath because it's showing how small Shantae is compared to her enemies? Shantae: Half-Genie Hero:

• Attack of the 50-Foot Whatever: A number of the bosses are absolutely gigantic. The first three bosses - the Tinkerslug, the Mermaid Queen, and Wilbur - all have the screen zoom out to show how large they are.

That sounds right. Just make sure to mention that Shantae is smaller than them in your example.

Got a video related to Blackhat by Michael Mann.

Related to Combat Pragmatist, would you guys say that it's correct to mention if a characters uses explosives to kill off other characters in a fight.

(x5) Sounds fair to make a pass on the Official Couple page. Should we create the topic for that in the Trope Repair Shop forum ? For that matter, if Beta Couple is also unique per work/franchise then should a trip on the Trope Repair Shop also be necessary ? I have seen multiple examples on its page too (Detective Conan for example has three of them).

Back to my example then and given the definition of both tropes without misuse, Athrun and Cagalli are definitely the Beta Couple of the Gundam SEED franchise to the Official Couple Kira and Lacus (Athrun and Cagalli also face many hardships but globally they are together faster than Kira and Lacus), I will leave thier entry then but I will add that precision.

I will also make a pass on all the Gundam SEED character pages to remove any Official Couple entry other than Kira and Lacus.

Edited by CybranLord on Apr 16th 2024 at 6:01:19 PM

I should add that Beta Couple can only exist paired with Official Couple. The whole point of the former is that it acts as a foil to the latter. You can have an official without a beta, but not vice versa.

Long-running stories may switch around these roles, depending on who is the main protagonist at any given time. This is usually signaled by a shift of focus into the new couple's relationship challenges, while some other couple serves as the stable role model.

If there is no clearly identified main protagonist, then Official Couple cannot exist as a trope.

Edited by Fighteer on Apr 16th 2024 at 11:42:16 AM

Noted.

For the Gundam SEED franchise, it has an overall protagonist, Kira Yamato (despite shifting in the second work but only to be back to him). So I will stick with him to be the basis of the Official Couple.

Edited by CybranLord on Apr 16th 2024 at 5:58:34 PM

Not if explosives are all they have.

It’s only for a few scenes (one or two, gotta check). Watched the movie before FYI.

Edited by Ominae on Apr 16th 2024 at 11:44:01 AM

If it's a Fight Scene I would say yes, but if it's a full-scale war I would say no.

I checked. It’s just one scene. So thanks for that.

Edited by Ominae on Apr 16th 2024 at 11:44:16 AM

To be clear, this is in regards to a rejected video clip. My concern was that it wasn't an actual fight; the bombs were detonated remotely when the targets ran in.

That could go on Lured into a Trap instead. Assuming that it wasn't a Batman Gambit.

Can a death fall under Cruel and Unusual Death if it is only cruel or only unusual? I added a bunch of BFDI examples (on CruelAndUnusualDeath.Web Original), but many may be only cruel (eg - characters get blown up, shattered, shredded, and melted, and some of them react in pain, but none of them are unusual because they happen frequently). Conversely, some are only unusual (eg, the funny plants deaths are unusual, but I'm not sure if they are cruel because they don't seem to react to the pain. Similarly, other characters die in unusual ways, but the death in question tends to be so quick that I'd find it hard to call it "cruel"). And the nature of the show means that there is no gore.

Edited by Paperfly on Apr 17th 2024 at 8:54:25 PM

I guess that can work. The SDU was looking for Kassar in the sewer tunnel when the mines blew up.

This example from Characters.Nukitashi talks about a woman who would like the protagonist to cheat on her.

• Cuckold: Admits to have something of a fetish regarding Junnosuke having a relationship with someone else, while she also has a crush on him.

Since Cuckold is definition only, which trope would fit? Is it a gender inverted version of My Girl Is a Slut?

Edited by animuacid on Apr 17th 2024 at 12:07:16 PM

Is this a Hidden Mechanic or something else?

• Sword Art Online: Hidden skills with requirements only stated after they've been acquired, Kirito's is "Dual Blades" from being the player with the fastest reaction time.

• Cinnamon Bun: The magical System that controls the LitRPG mechanics tracks events but only reveals what events were needed to unlock which class evolutions, when explaining the evolutions.

• Pokémon: The requirements for evolution are never stated, it's just implied, in how you never see the pre-evolved form of a Pokemon after a certain level.

Edited by Malady on Apr 17th 2024 at 6:26:39 AM

Bumping this Jack Sparrow example query.

I'd say it's probably fine to keep. If people refuse to watch it because they don't want to see Jack Sparrow put through hell, then it's Angst Aversion whether or not the people refusing to watch actually have the right idea about what happens in the film. YMMV isn't about whether the opinions are "right". They're about whether a substantial chunk of the audience holds those opinions.

Those wouldn't be proper examples of Hidden Mechanic based on this line from the description: "Even after a player discovers it, it won't be mentioned, but will still impact the gameplay and the ultimate result."

Edited by CompletelyNormalGuy on Apr 17th 2024 at 11:27:12 AM

Does Red Right Hand apply if a character just has a scar because their actor has a scar?

I'm confused as to in which cases do I Just Want to Be Normal apply—the description first mentions cases like superpowers and the like, then says it "also include[s] situations where overt powers or the like are not involved, wherein the characters are involved in an exceptional situation. It can also occur when characters, for no particular reason other than that the show is ending or that they're leaving it, have a sudden and usually implausible epiphany that they really want to live a 'normal' life". Further down I also see it's contrasted with Keeping the Handicap, implying it's one of the possible antonyms. So do cases like the following (taken from Manga.I Got My Wish And Reincarnated As The Villainess Last Boss) apply?

• I Just Want to Be Normal: Before reincarnating, Elizabeth was frail and sickly, and was bedridden for all her life. When she dies she only wishes to be reborn in a healthier body.

The Made of Iron example on Characters/MonsterVerseGodzilla strikes me as being misuse, since IIRC the trope is for mundane individuals who inexplicably survive things that should severely injure or kill them. But since Super-Toughness is already on the page I'm not entirely sure what to do.

Edited by Arawn999 on Apr 18th 2024 at 8:26:07 AM

Don't know where else to ask this, but can you list a trope in a character's sheet if it's an Informed Attribute? For example, Bob is described as a Chick Magnet but is never shown to attract any female attention.

In that case Urban Legend Love Life fits better.