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MyssaRei Since: Feb, 2010
#1651: Feb 11th 2016 at 6:44:27 PM

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You, sir, show a terrible ignorance of how manga or anime production actually works. Seriously.

Even when played for laughs, Shirobako showed that the anime production process is NOT easy, and what's more, ridiculously stressful for little in return.

And Murata working double-time to get two books out in one year IS a big deal, when Murata's output is just about the industry average — a tankoubon a year.

edited 11th Feb '16 6:49:38 PM by MyssaRei

Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#1652: Feb 11th 2016 at 6:50:58 PM

Murata spend several chapters drawing the scene where Metal Knight flies in to shoot missiles at the meteor. Those chapters took up approximately twelve seconds of animation.

Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#1653: Feb 11th 2016 at 6:55:49 PM

You, sir, show a terrible ignorance of how manga or anime production actually works. Seriously..

Well my hypothetical degree says otherwise.

Even when played for laughs, Shirobako showed that the anime production process is NOT easy, and what's more, ridiculously stressful for little in return.

...so then you reiterate what I suggested, and now I'm confused.

Did you mean the manga production process?

Because what I said was that the process of animating would seemingly take longer.

Murata spend several chapters drawing the scene where Metal Knight flies in to shoot missiles at the meteor. Those chapters took up approximately twelve seconds of animation.

I considered this. There's Metal Knight, the Meteor, the Genos vs Saitama fight, and Sonic's attack on Saitama before the crotch-tap. In those cases, Murata drew several panels to illustrate the motion of what was happening.

My point is - while those are extensive drawings, the motions we see between panels should still take a longer time to animate than they take to draw. Compare Saitama swatting a mosquito in the manga, to Saitama squatting mosquito in the anime.

edited 11th Feb '16 6:58:29 PM by Soble

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#1654: Feb 11th 2016 at 6:57:45 PM

Manga is drawn by one, maybe two, people. Anime is made by a companies worth. More work, but WAY more manpower.

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#1655: Feb 11th 2016 at 7:01:27 PM

But shouldn't the process of animating said material take much longer than drawing it?

Possibly.

But animating it takes less time than creating it.

edited 11th Feb '16 7:01:43 PM by BaconManiac5000

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Hoki Since: Nov, 2011
#1656: Feb 11th 2016 at 7:02:17 PM

Murata spend several chapters drawing the scene where Metal Knight flies in to shoot missiles at the meteor. Those chapters took up approximately twelve seconds of animation.

This is a good example of how anime can easily overtake the source manga. What is about a chapter in the manga is but a few minutes or seconds when animated, because being animated actually shows the actions that can only be imagined by the reader when reading the manga. That is why an anime episode can eat up about a minimum of 3 or 4 manga chapters.

Ernie AKA Kaymarx from Memphis Since: Jan, 2001
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#1657: Feb 11th 2016 at 7:56:08 PM

There's a lot less art to make for the manga, but it's done by a far greater number of artists. I don't know the number of animators involved, but if you're going to think of it in terms of man-hours, then the number of workers needs to be considered.

Also, while there's color in the animated version, there's also often some sacrifice of detail image-for-image.

Should've checked the list.
illegalcheese X-14: Killer Cheese Since: Apr, 2010
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#1658: Feb 11th 2016 at 11:11:42 PM

I was under the impression that once animators do the keyframes (which merely need to be adapted from the manga), the in-between animation is just brute-force legwork that can be outsourced. An animation company can animate a lot more efficiently than an artist can write and draw.

Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#1659: Feb 12th 2016 at 5:45:30 AM

I guess I'll just accept that then. I'd like some kind of video comparison of an artist duo (I doubt Murata draws/edits/inks the entire manga by himself) drawing chapters, vs the animation team taking those frames, installing movements in-between them that would otherwise be ignored, the sound production and all that.

edited 12th Feb '16 6:04:43 AM by Soble

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MyssaRei Since: Feb, 2010
#1660: Feb 12th 2016 at 5:56:06 AM

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At one point Murata actually streamed his drawing sessions, so he was definitely doing it solo, at least at the start. I think when the compilation/tankoubon versions had to be done, only then did assistants have to come in to help (because of the additions or changes — see Sonic's first introduction).

edited 12th Feb '16 5:56:41 AM by MyssaRei

Elfive Since: May, 2009
#1661: Feb 12th 2016 at 6:56:55 AM

I think he still does that. I saw one where he was doing Garou vs Metal Bat.

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#1663: Feb 19th 2016 at 4:47:14 PM

One Punch Mon.

The Sonic crotch landing.

edited 19th Feb '16 4:48:55 PM by PushoverMediaCritic

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#1664: Feb 19th 2016 at 9:00:56 PM

Hitmonchan sucker punching a Jirachi would be incredible to see animated.

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#1666: Feb 20th 2016 at 1:05:13 AM

Hitmonchan (Saitama set)

Mach Punch

Focus Punch

Mega Punch

Close Combat

between 10 and 25 for all IVs

100,000,000 EVs in every single stat

32ndfreeze from Australia Since: Mar, 2012
#1667: Feb 20th 2016 at 1:07:32 AM

I'd think the main power would be in his ability. As to reflect the meta nature of his power in that Saitama. Always. Wins.

Overwhelming Force: Any move used by Saitama instantly wins the battle.

edited 20th Feb '16 1:08:04 AM by 32ndfreeze

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#1668: Feb 20th 2016 at 1:10:35 AM

Except didn't Garou survive a couple hits without a healing factor?

32ndfreeze from Australia Since: Mar, 2012
#1669: Feb 20th 2016 at 2:11:51 AM

[up]Hmm, you're right. Let's assume he was using either Hold Back or False Swipe.

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#1670: Feb 20th 2016 at 2:19:57 AM

Wouldn't Overwhelming Force override Hold Back?

EchoingSilence Since: Jun, 2013
#1671: Feb 20th 2016 at 4:27:14 AM

Saitama wanted the power to defeat anything in One Punch. That's vague enough for his power to allow him to either knock out or kill depending on his choice.

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#1672: Feb 20th 2016 at 5:46:47 AM

I'm pretty sure Garou took a Serious Headbutt to the stomach and kept fighting.

Elfive Since: May, 2009
#1673: Feb 20th 2016 at 6:56:05 AM

It was his arm, IIRC. That was after he started regenerating though.

Elfive Since: May, 2009
#1674: Feb 27th 2016 at 3:01:13 AM

Chapter's out.

She's got a different name, but that ability clinches it. Slingshot S is almost certainly Manga Goddess Glasses. Wonder if it will take longer for Sweet Mask to smash her face in here.

Edit: Actually they're both out. Plus the new OVA got subbed yesterday. It's like fucking Christmas up in here.

edited 27th Feb '16 3:06:27 AM by Elfive

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#1675: Feb 27th 2016 at 5:25:14 AM

Well, watched the subbed OVA, it's about Sonic trying to regain his confidence after losing to Saitama and he gets a wild boar piglet as a friend and it's so fucking cute I don't even


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